Comments Thread For: Marquez Rejects Arum's Idea of Facing Pacquiao in 2016

[loui_ludwig]

Well, of course JMM is gonna say no. Pac will ask VADA to do the OST.

[ADP02]

Marquez knows that the chances of Manny stumbling just before Marquez throws a punch like he did will be hard to duplicate.

The build up would be great and I'm sure that the fight would be just as good if not better.

[ADP02]

Well, of course JMM is gonna say no. Pac will ask VADA to do the OST.

Very su****ious that Manny went down 0 times in 3 fights and 2 times in the 4th fight.

While it will always be considered a great fight, that part of it will always make me think of 1 guy.

[b00g13man]

Marquez knows that the chances of Manny stumbling just before Marquez throws a punch like he did will be hard to duplicate.

The build up would be great and I'm sure that the fight would be just as good if not better.

Loooooooool. Still haven't got over that loss either huh?

Life must be so hard being a Manny fanboy.

[ADP02]

I have no respect for Marquez and it's clear he is not a true mexican warrior. Pacquiao gave him 3 rematches, he didn't have to but did, then finally after 4 fights he comes away with a win and can't repay the favor to pac and the fans

Yup, that is what makes this crazy and its not like this was the first time this came up. Marquez could have had this fight last year or the year before that.

Marquez begged Manny. Then gets the win and calls it a day. Not right in my books.

[ADP02]

Loooooooool. Still haven't got over that loss either huh?

Life must be so hard being a Manny fanboy.

What are you talking about? The fight was a great fight.

The KO had some luck in it and a bit of Memo's signature too! I would take that Manny loss over any Floyd fight. Can't compare. One was great to watch. The other would be great if you had trouble sleeping.

[b00g13man]

What are you talking about? The fight was a great fight.

The KO had some luck in it and a bit of Memo's signature too! I would take that Manny loss over any Floyd fight. Can't compare. One was great to watch. The other would be great if you had trouble sleeping.

Loooool. Luck and PED accusations? Sounds like you're definitely over it.

[radioraheem]

Loooool. Luck and PED accusations? Sounds like you're definitely over it.

God forbid someone say that Pacquiao knocked down Marquez by luck during the same fight, and that it had a bit of Ariza's shake signature. These dudes are comedians.

[boxingfan4life]

Pacquiao jumped 2 weight classes and stopped ODLH. He was on something. It's not possible that the guy is just an incredibly hard worker, because whenever a fighter does something extraordinary we have to blame PEDs. Fetty Wap could see that he was on something with his good eye closed :/

Im not saying Pac didn't juice either. Im just pointing out that Marquez definitely did. Everyone, including pac fans, knows he was on something. A fighters punching power is the last thing to go. Its odd that's the first thing that went away in Pacquiao's once he started doing Olympic style testing. But just like Floyd and Marquez it was never proven, just su****ious.

[boxingfan4life]

Ugh, you missed the edit. Oh well.

In any case:

A TKO is fight action stopped by the referee while the clock was running.
A RTD is a fight stopped by the referee while the clock is stopped in between rounds. There is no physical activity taking place.

Both are technically knock outs and are recorded in the stoppage column.

Directly from a Boxrec editor. Don't know what else you want when an editor for a British site (where RTDs exist, because they certainly aren't in America) says an RTD is a stoppage :/



From 37:17. Doesn't get any clearer.

That's as far as I'm going with this. Pacquiao stopped Marquez. If you want to argue with the rules of boxing, go right ahead. Again, sorry for the tone. This is an argument about nothing anyway.

Any moment a fighter can't continue due to referee, corner, or physician is classified as a TKO plain and simple. Yes the RTD is a type of stoppage but still classified as a TKO. Look at Oscars record for example 39 W 6 L (2 KO) D0. It doesn't say 39 W 6 L (1 KO, 1 RTD) D 0. RTD is still a Technical Knockout.