Comments Thread For: Marquez Rejects Arum's Idea of Facing Pacquiao in 2016

[aboutfkntime]

Kovalev and GGG do not use VADA testing. do you think they cheat also?

* crickets *

[Motofan]

So just to make sure I understand the logic here, it goes something like this

Fight 1- Close but Marquez should have edged it
Fight 2- Close but Marquez should have edged it
Fight 3- Marquez should have won WIDE

=

Manny-2 and 1 even.

So Juan knows that the only way he wins is to knock Manny cold. Which he does in the 4th fight. Cold as cold gets with a pulse. Now that isn't enough? Is Juan required to try and kill Manny in the ring to make the rematch requests stop? Or would he be required to fight Manny's eldest son to avoid being labeled a "ducker"?

[aboutfkntime]

What?

Marquez was obviously on PEDs.

He gained over 9 pounds of muscle in less than 7 months, when he moved up to fight Mayweather Jr.

A 36 year old man, gaining 9 pounds of muscle in that short of a time frame is literally impossible, when you take into consideration that he has already has been training his whole life/been physically active.

Pac gained 15lbs of muscle in 9 months

BTW, Marquez agreed to undertake any test they wanted.

Pacquiao refused.

[aboutfkntime]

jmm had memo for 3rd i know. but his body seemed normal 3rd fight to me.

4th fight jmm was huge.

Very poor logic !

[Zaroku]

There's a lot of things we can go back and look at in Pacquiao's career than just that KO loss. With the exception of Marquez, he dispatched opponents better than "TBE" and let's not forget how he did permanent damage to another cheater (Margarito). Plus, he became the first boxer to win seven world titles in seven different weight classes when he beat Cotto. That KO loss is just a bad occurrence in his career but hey, that's happened to a lot of ATG. There's more to Joe Louis's career than just his loss to Marciano. There's more to Ali's career than his loss to Frazier. There's more to Duran's career than just "No Mas". So Pacquiao's KO loss to Marquez doesn't change anything.

Also, I don't look at KO that often. In fact, I hate seeing it, really.

I enjoyed the beating he gave margarito! The ref should have stopped that fight! In my opinion PAC
was not the same after that fight!

I bet against him when he fought Floyd! I bet against DLH when he fought Floyd! I always bet my money!

I wish Marquez was younger, PAC too!
I could watch them dance again & again! Marquez is a really smart boxer! He adapts and adjusts as the fight goes on! Floyd is even better than Marquez at making adjustments during fights!

floyd is an amazing boxer! He should have gotten the Gold @ the olympics, but I think not getting it taught him that life is unfair, and you have to make or take your breaks!

He bought his contract back from Arum, then was able to start the process of making money!

PAC needs to think of his health! Fighting algierie is worse than Floyd fighting Berto!

[Zaroku]

Pac gained 15lbs of muscle in 9 months

BTW, Marquez agreed to undertake any test they wanted.

Pacquiao refused.

Body builders would love to do that!

Send me a link to that!
Thanks!

[Left Hook Tua]

Very poor logic !

yeah.

considering it's not logic. that post was an opinioned observation.

talk to me after you look up logic.

[aboutfkntime]

Body builders would love to do that!

Send me a link to that!
Thanks!

Its on boxrec.

From Diaz to Hoya.

Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs.

* the highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history is 41lbs
* that weight-gain was made by a guy who ended up at HEAVYWEIGHT
* that guy used steroids to transition to heavyweight

[Zaroku]

Its on boxrec.

From Diaz to Hoya.

Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs.

* the highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history is 41lbs
* that weight-gain was made by a guy who ended up at HEAVYWEIGHT
* that guy used steroids to transition to heavyweight

About fxcking time!
Thanks fellow boxing fan!

[aboutfkntime]

yeah.

considering it's not logic. that post was an opinioned observation.

talk to me after you look up logic.

It seems like you are confident that Marquez did not use steroids in the 3rd fight, despite having the exact same strength and conditioning coach..... but then you assumed that Marquez must have juiced for the 4th fight simply because he looked bigger.

They were doing strength and conditioning work after all.

Also, wasn't he like 1lb heavier for the 4th fight ?

It is well-documented, and obvious from the fight, that Marquez trained/fought differently than in previous fights.

Also, after hearing the comments, Marquez agreed to FULL testing, but Pacquiao refused.

Assuming that Marquez is juicing, simply because " he looked bigger " seems to be flawed logic..... especially considering that Pac put on 15lbs of muscle in 9 months while ripping through three divisions all the while refusing to undertake random blood tests.

YouU could be right, who knows..... but the accusations that are currently directed toward Marquez seem to be hella weak compared to the situation with Pacquiao.

I certainly dont understand how you can accuse one without raising an eyebrow over the other.