Why did Manny oppose to WADA back in 2010 vs Floyd?

[radioraheem]

''Why didn't Manny Pacquiao want WADA style testing for the initial Floyd bout?''

you might as well apply the same as:

Why did Floyd only want USADA to do the testing for the Pac bout? And for all Floyd's fights?

and why did floyd opted to do out of court settlement when pac's lawyer demanded for floyd's test results? with a confidentiality clause at that...

When Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was first negotiated 5, 6 or so years ago, only USADA existed for random drug testing.

Second, there is no evidence for why the case was settled out of court. No one has any factual evidence that Team Mayweather proposed the settlement, or that Team Pacquiao proposed the settlement. And the terms of the settlement are confidential.

[Lester Tutor]

When Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was first negotiated 5, 6 or so years ago, only USADA existed for random drug testing.

Second, there is no evidence for why the case was settled out of court. No one has any factual evidence that Team Mayweather proposed the settlement, or that Team Pacquiao proposed the settlement. And the terms of the settlement are confidential.

Unfortunately, the clearest point, at least from an objective approach to try and have people reason, is to write a thread in which other people believe is too long. Were it to be short, perhaps even a funnier excuse..

That can be translated as:

One doesn't actually read.

It contradicts the view of a boxing hero; for instance it's hard to have an open conversation with religious fanatics..

They bring up a different example, thus creating a double standard non related to the observation of the OP.

Endless pages of not one brave soul giving a reason as to why Pacquiao didn't want WADA, and instead chose the NSAC that didn't require blood, which is technically a challenge of an athlete onto another athlete in a protocol adhered into Olympic stylezzz.

90% of Floyd haters perhaps don't even know the fact that Floyd was in the Olympics.... so when Floyd states ''Olympic style'' it's clear he doesn't know anything about it.

How many fools open themselves up? Maybe not fools...that's too harsh.

How About Cowards?

[SplitSecond]

Unfortunately, the clearest point, at least from an objective approach to try and have people reason, is to write a thread in which other people believe is too long. Were it to be short, perhaps even a funnier excuse..

That can be translated as:

One doesn't actually read.

It contradicts the view of a boxing hero; for instance it's hard to have an open conversation with religious fanatics..

They bring up a different example, thus creating a double standard non related to the observation of the OP.

Endless pages of not one brave soul giving a reason as to why Pacquiao didn't want WADA, and instead chose the NSAC that didn't require blood, which is technically a challenge of an athlete onto another athlete in a protocol adhered into Olympic stylezzz.

90% of Floyd haters perhaps don't even know the fact that Floyd was in the Olympics.... so when Floyd states ''Olympic style'' it's clear he doesn't know anything about it.

How many fools open themselves up? Maybe not fools...that's too harsh.

How About Cowards?

You've been told plenty of times, Team Pacquiao and even Golden Boy were all willing to fund the commission so they could undergo all those advanced and additional testing Mayweather wanted. If Floyd really wanted the fight and on an even playing field he'd have co-operated with everyone else and helped the commission undergo all the tests he wanted. But no, he needed his own privately employed company in USADA, which he could then try to sneak in stipulations allowing USADA to hand out TUE's without the NSAC's approval(and this is a FACT, even stated by USADA themselves) and the other which we can strongly assume is also true because despite attacking the paragraph USADA seems to gloss over, is the attempts(I'm sure he's succeeded also) to hand these TUE's out without informing neither the opponent or the commission itself.

[radioraheem]

You've been told plenty of times, Team Pacquiao and even Golden Boy were all willing to fund the commission so they could undergo all those advanced and additional testing Mayweather wanted. If Floyd really wanted the fight and on an even playing field he'd have co-operated with everyone else and helped the commission undergo all the tests he wanted. But no, he needed his own privately employed company in USADA, which he could then try to sneak in stipulations allowing USADA to hand out TUE's without the NSAC's approval(and this is a FACT, even stated by USADA themselves) and the other which we can strongly assume is also true because despite attacking the paragraph USADA seems to gloss over, is the attempts(I'm sure he's succeeded also) to hand these TUE's out without informing neither the opponent or the commission itself.

This is incorrect. Back in that era, NSAC did NOT have a random drug testing program. NSAC could NOT do it and never proposed to do so. In fact, they held a meeting and interviewed USADA's CEO asking him why random drug testing was necessary. Also, VADA did not exist either at that time.

So he is correct, you still haven't answered his question.

[SplitSecond]

this is incorrect. Back in that era, nsac did not have a random drug testing program. Nsac could not do it and never proposed to do so. In fact, they held a meeting and interviewed usada's ceo asking him why random drug testing was necessary. Also, vada did not exist either at that time.

So he is correct, you still haven't answered his question.

Besides the point! The nsac have stated they would be willing to undergo those additional tests should the parties appropriately fund them!

And here's the commission's Keith Kizer saying they could and would have:

I know that Richard Shaefer and Bob Arum back in early 2010 had said ***8220;look, can we just petition the commission and see if they***8217;ll be willing to do additional testing on our dime? I want to present that to them because we want everything au****ious of the athletic commission.***8221; I said ***8220;definitely.***8221; Any promoter can petition the commission for anything. It doesn***8217;t mean they***8217;ll say yes or they***8217;ll say no. So they both had agreed to that. I guess Mr. Pacquiao had agreed to that but Mr. Mayweather said no, he wasn***8217;t going to do that. And that***8217;s fine, I take no offense at that. I don***8217;t think anyone should. So if they had done that***8212;of course it would have to have been a joint-petition***8212;if they had done a joint-petition to the commission for additional drug testing where they***8217;d cover the cost so we wouldn***8217;t have any budget issues, we would have been happy to do that. We***8217;re still happy to do that. Again, my understanding is Golden Boy, Top Rank, and Pacquiao were in agreement to do that, but Mr. Mayweather decided not to do that, and that***8217;s his right.***8221;

[radioraheem]

besides the point! The nsac have stated they would be willing to undergo those additional tests should the parties appropriately fund them!

This is incorrect. NSAC did not have a program. The fight was on the verge of being held within a few months. NSAC, nor anyone else was equipped to do a random drug testing program at that time, even if someone gave them the cash. NSAC didn't even start a random drug testing program until 3-4 years later after that time. The only choice was USADA.

This is also why NSAC interviewed USADA's CEO at that time, asking him why random drug testing might be a necessity for the fight. And irony is that NSAC didn't believe it was relevant. But it's okay, it was a brand new thing for professional boxing at that time. Few understood.

[GTTofAK]

I mean clearly WADA are idiots if they make exceptions from their own code, when they also explain the risks of a blood clot or any injury to the athlete, as in "please be cautious and see out guidelines.

The exception for the WADA TUE is 7% of body weight or in Floyds case 11lbs. Do you think Floyds was down 11lbs?

[Lester Tutor]

The exception for the WADA TUE is 7% of body weight or in Floyds case 11lbs. Do you think Floyds was down 11lbs?

Are you paraphrasing?

[Lester Tutor]

So it's the 2nd week of splendor. Anybody still confused about WADA?

[Spoon23]

Lol no one is reading that nonsense

What a waste of bandwidth lmao