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  • Here's a fact, Morales tested positive four times under USADA and was still allowed to fight. When the CEO of the company was questioned during a three-way telephone conversation, he stated that "The licensing body was aware of the positive test prior to the fight. What they did with it was their call."

    A spokesperson for the NYSAC disputed those claims in writing, "There is no indication in the Commission files that it was notified of this matter prior to October 18, 2012."

    USADA was willing to fabricate a lie in order to absolve themselves of responsibility or future blame. This case adds credibility to the rumors of Floyd having failed three drug tests under USADA.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/floy...ve-three-times

    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one

    Mayweather's sample had tested positive on three occasions, and after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver negated the need for a test of Floyd's B sample. And because the B sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA's contract with Mayweather allowed the testing to proceed without the positive A sample results being reported to Mayweather's opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).
    Can USADA truly be trusted? History has proven otherwise.

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    • Originally posted by IR0NFIST View Post
      Here's a fact, Morales tested positive four times under USADA and was still allowed to fight. When the CEO of the company was questioned during a three-way telephone conversation, he stated that "The licensing body was aware of the positive test prior to the fight. What they did with it was their call."

      A spokesperson for the NYSAC disputed those claims in writing, "There is no indication in the Commission files that it was notified of this matter prior to October 18, 2012."
      I'm sorry, I haven't been following this USADA thing as meticulously as others. So if NYSAC was not notified, who leaked it in the media?

      Or it could be another case where the commission just don't want to be the bad guy cancelling fights.

      If I remember correctly about the Morales case, I heard that USADA kept getting samples from Morales and won't stop until they get a negative result. There was talk of canceling the fight on the very fight day, but Schaefer eventually prevailed in resuming the fight.

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      • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
        As apposed to a long diatribe written by SugarKaineHook. You are just pissed that you got your answer. Arum didn't' trust USADA and felt that they could be bought. Time has shown him to be correct.
        Arum doesn't trust VADA or USADA. His preference is NSAC.

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        • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
          Simpler explanation. USADA tester finds evidence of IV and informs superiors. USADA does nothing because superiors get nice fat bonus check from the money Mayweather pays USADA. Story spreads within USADA, executives fear another leak like happened with Morales. They tell Mayweather camp to submit TUE application almost 3 weeks after the fight and it is approved in a day.

          Later USADA makes up some contradictory explanation of Mayweather not being able to give a simple while at the same time arguing that they tested both before and after the IV and make up some bull**** story about a paramedic.
          This is all speculation, you are guessing using your imagination. You might as well type up the next Harry Potter novel while you're at it.

          Again, you conveniently believe what you want. You only know about the IV originally because USADA told you. But when USADA says anything else surrounding what they told you, it's lies.

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          • Originally posted by BreWall View Post
            I'm sorry, I haven't been following this USADA thing as meticulously as others. So if NYSAC was not notified, who leaked it in the media?

            Or it could be another case where the commission just don't want to be the bad guy cancelling fights.

            If I remember correctly about the Morales case, I heard that USADA kept getting samples from Morales and won't stop until they get a negative result. There was talk of canceling the fight on the very fight day, but Schaefer eventually prevailed in resuming the fight.
            Yes, it is a known fact that NYSAC knew about the positive before the fight, along with Golden Boy. And yet the fight still continued.

            Angel Garcia said something along the lines that NYSAC and/or Golden Boy asked them personally what did they want to do. And Garcia decided to continue on with the fight despite that.

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            • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
              Yes, it is a known fact that NYSAC knew about the positive before the fight, along with Golden Boy. And yet the fight still continued.

              Angel Garcia said something along the lines that NYSAC and/or Golden Boy asked them personally what did they want to do. And Garcia decided to continue on with the fight despite that.
              It's not a known fact, just before the fight Dan Rafael was told by the commission that they can't stop the fight, cause they were told the B samples wouldn't be in till after the fight.

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              • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                It's not a known fact, just before the fight Dan Rafael was told by the commission that they can't stop the fight, cause they were told the B samples wouldn't be in till after the fight.
                Even with that for sake of argument -- that is still NYSAC's decision.

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                • Originally posted by JQside View Post
                  Fact that USADA has this confidentiality agreement with boxers means they should not be in this business at all. It's ******. Everything should be about exposing cheaters, not protecting them. Past and present opponents should be able to have the right to request the cheater's blood and urine samples and have them examined by experts. Fact that they can't just means you have an erect red flag right in front of you, which signals, "You're not allowed to enter the premises without authorization." What a dumb anti-doping company.
                  With just boxers or athletes? Experts? The tests are done at WADA accredited labs. If USADA were to manipulate test results the best thing is to warrant investigation from the WADA accredited lab that did the test.

                  But thats not funny. Hear the reasons from Manny Pacquiao about a "Hospital computers' losing" test results! Apparently the blood viles, paper work from all parties involved couldn't be referenced, only that the "Hospital" lost the results. A Top Rank failed cover up in coaching an excuse without understanding the logic behind their own excuse. :P

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                  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                    Even with that for sake of argument -- that is still NYSAC's decision.
                    It's a clear cut decision if they know Morales failed definitively.

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                    • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                      With just boxers or athletes? Experts? The tests are done at WADA accredited labs. If USADA were to manipulate test results the best thing is to warrant investigation from the WADA accredited lab that did the test.

                      But thats not funny. Hear the reasons from Manny Pacquiao about a "Hospital computers' losing" test results! Apparently the blood viles, paper work from all parties involved couldn't be referenced, only that the "Hospital" lost the results. A Top Rank failed cover up in coaching an excuse without understanding the logic behind their own excuse. :P


                      These guys don't realize how bad they own themselves.

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