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Whose 49-0 is truly greater? Mayweather or Marciano?

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  • Originally posted by Mr. Legend View Post
    Now that Floyd has finally managed to tie Rocky's record of 49-0, it does raise the question of whose 49-0 will be remembered as greater in history- Rocky's run at Heavyweight or Floyd's run at multiple lower weights.

    Rocky attained his 49-0 in the 1950s as a 190-pound man fighting in the Heavyweight division, brutalizing much bigger opponents before becoming the Heavyweight Champion of the world. Throughout his career he achieved a stunning knockout ratio of 87.75 percent, which was for a long time the highest KO ratio in Heavyweight championship history.

    Floyd on the other hand attained his 49-0 by steadily moving through 5 divisions in the lower weight classes and defeating multiple world champions in some of boxing's biggest ever super fights, in the process establishing himself as the #1 Pound-4-pound fighter of his own generation as well as the undisputed Pay-per-view king.

    Rocky's biggest wins: Joe Louis (KO), Archie Moore (KO), Jersey Joe Walcott x2 (KO), Ezzard Charles x2 (KO).

    Floyd's biggest wins: Manny Pacquiao (UD), Oscar Dela Hoya (SD), Canelo (MD), Miguel Cotto (UD), Diego Corrales (TKO).

    Both men have beaten Legends in the sport. Rocky P4P was one of the most ferocious KO artists in boxing history- his punches have broken arms, sent front rows of teeth flying, and common opponents claimed he hit even harder than Joe Louis. But Floyd, while not a KO artist like Rocky, is a defensive wizard who has never been officially knocked down from a punch, while Rocky has been down several times.

    So, whose 49-0 is truly greater? Which is more impressive- moving through several lower weight classes, or winning the heavyweight championship?

    Lets keep it civil but real guys

    Rocky beat Joe Louis and Walcott at the end of their careers. In fact, it was their final fights (for both Louis and Walcott). I don't consider them "great" wins for Marciano. It's like giving Larry Holmes the props for beating Muhammad Ali....

    Floyd Mayweather's 49-0 is better than Marciano's.

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    • Originally posted by BrometheusBob View Post
      Why you hatin.

      Archie Moore the greatest that ever lived.


      I'm actually a big fan of Archie Moore. He's in my Top 10 despite the fact he's rarely included in most historians Top 10.

      #1 is obviously ridiculous though.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Marciano is arguably not even a Top 10 HW so how on Earth could he be anywhere close to Top 25 of all time?

        I don't know why that suprises you. It's not an uncommon view.
        it's actually a very uncommon view. I hate topics like this, because I consider you one of the better posters on this site, and you have solid boxign knowledge and generally good input, but from one Floyd fan to another, you really do walk the fine line into blatant nuthuggery, you really don't seem to be able to be objective about Floyd or Marciano ever. The way you write off Marciano and his resume when these types of comparisons are made is just disappointing to be honest.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post


          I'm actually a big fan of Archie Moore. He's in my Top 10 despite the fact he's rarely included in most historians Top 10.

          #1 is obviously ridiculous though.
          archie was original bhop.

          except better skilled and 100% natural.

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post


            I'm actually a big fan of Archie Moore. He's in my Top 10 despite the fact he's rarely included in most historians Top 10.

            #1 is obviously ridiculous though.
            Yeah you're right, he did lose to my man Marciano after all.

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            • Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
              it's actually a very uncommon view. I hate topics like this, because I consider you one of the better posters on this site, and you have solid boxign knowledge and generally good input, but from one Floyd fan to another, you really do walk the fine line into blatant nuthuggery, you really don't seem to be able to be objective about Floyd or Marciano ever. The way you write off Marciano and his resume when these types of comparisons are made is just disappointing to be honest.
              It's not an uncommon view at all, really it's not. I don't know how well schooled you are in the history but do any basic research you will find that Marciano is rarely considered an ATG. He's arguably not even an ATG heavyweight let alone an ATG in general.

              It's not "nuthuggery" at all. I'm as objective as possible regarding any fighter not just Mayweather. I've critisized Floyd plenty on this site and the posts are there clear as day to be seen. So what you're saying is nonsense.

              And I don't even have any dislike what so ever towards Marciano Infact I enjoy watching his fights it's just I actually know about him as a fighter and know that his resume is not great. No bias what so ever I have no feelings at all toward Marciano.

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              • He beat Joe Louis' ass doe



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                • You're a very patient man IronDan

                  Respect.

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                  • Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                    Are you serious???
                    Originally posted by FLYBOY View Post
                    Rocky beat Joe Louis and Walcott at the end of their careers. In fact, it was their final fights (for both Louis and Walcott). I don't consider them "great" wins for Marciano. It's like giving Larry Holmes the props for beating Muhammad Ali....

                    Floyd Mayweather's 49-0 is better than Marciano's.
                    That's a totally unjust comparison as I've explained earlier in the thread. Muhammad Ali should never have been allowed to take that fight or the one against Berbick.

                    Some people rewriting history on Joe Louis in this thread. Y'all know he was the favorite over Marciano right?
                    Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-22-2015, 12:17 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      It's not an uncommon view at all, really it's not. I don't know how well schooled you are in the history but do any basic research you will find that Marciano is rarely considered an ATG. He's arguably not even an ATG heavyweight let alone an ATG in general.

                      It's not "nuthuggery" at all. I'm as objective as possible regarding any fighter not just Mayweather. I've critisized Floyd plenty on this site and the posts are there clear as day to be seen. So what you're saying is nonsense.

                      And I don't even have any dislike what so ever towards Marciano Infact I enjoy watching his fights it's just I actually know about him as a fighter and know that his resume is not great. No bias what so ever I have no feelings at all toward Marciano.
                      at the end of the day. Marciano over Mayweather!

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