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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #171
    Originally posted by Najuk
    so you basically say demanding a fair weight - ducking.Nice logic.
    A fair weight? Golovkin's team know that Ward can't make 164. That's why they put it out to the media to pretend that they actually want the fight.

    But they really don't want it because they're making unrealistic demands.

    Originally posted by BreWall
    You didn't answer the question. What's the counter to 164, which is fair. One moves up and the other moves down, as opposed to just one fighter moving up.

    You gotta be an idiot to fight a #2 P4P at his weight. Where's the advantage in making that fight, which is not a money fight and no chance of winning?

    You guys are a joke.
    Why? I thought Golovkin was supposed to be a great fighter?

    Originally posted by Najuk
    lol just the fact that Ward responded to GGG "media offer" shows that Ward saw this as a real offer. Otherwise he wouldnt bring his own demands (168 , 50/50)
    Ward is just tired of Little G and his team talking to the media so he decided to make them a real offer, which was of course rejected out of hand by Team GGG.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #172
      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
      To be fair to little g, this his dumbass team trying milk him out at 160 before the hype dies, ward beats him and they know it that's why they on this unifying mw crusade now but was willing to take fights in between at 168 but when the big bad wolf starts calling it's unifying, now ppl about to start throwing out little g bodyguard Krusher name
      Little G fans know it too, they don't want this fight that much is obvious.

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      • Najuk
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        #173
        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
        To be fair to little g, this his dumbass team trying milk him out at 160 before the hype dies, ward beats him and they know it that's why they on this unifying mw crusade now but was willing to take fights in between at 168 but when the big bad wolf starts calling it's unifying, now ppl about to start throwing out little g bodyguard Krusher name
        come om guy you dont really think ward with his glass chin could win against ggg

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #174
          Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
          To be fair to little g, this his dumbass team trying milk him out at 160 before the hype dies, ward beats him and they know it that's why they on this unifying mw crusade now but was willing to take fights in between at 168 but when the big bad wolf starts calling it's unifying, now ppl about to start throwing out little g bodyguard Krusher name
          It's true. Golovkin's team have done a fantastic job in duping the public to be fair.

          They have done everything to avoid fighting guys with unfavourable styles to them whilst also marketing him as being the most avoided fighter.

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          • tokon
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            #175
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            While I agree 50-50 is a sound agreement between the two sides (at 168), I think it's going to be harder and harder to stick to that. If that PPV does well and the fact MSG is practically sold out and GGG is doing much higher tickets sales than Ward now on the West Coast, it's going to be very hard to do a 50-50 as time goes on and it's going to be a hard argument for Ward to demand more.

            The facts are the facts, Ward is his own worst enemy. He refused to travel for practically his entire career, forcing opponents to come to his side of the fence and that hurt his marketability. During the legal battle with Goossen, he could have fought but his ego and stubbornness made him sit out from November 2013 until June 20 2015. Goossen won three legal cars brought on by Ward, who continued to look for ways out. He obviously had NO CASE since Roc Nation had to jump in and save him, by "buying" out his contract. Think about it, if RNS had not saved the day then Ward would have still been sitting out. And while he sat out, HBO shifted their marketing to Golovkin and made him into a blooming star.

            In my mind there is no question Ward is better and I think he would win if they fought, but because of his own demons his claim of being the A-side in this equation is slipping away. And if that PPV does well he will certainly lose that A-side claim.
            All very good points but the "more than 50%" and "catchweight at 164" etc. are all just negotiating ploys by Team GGG.

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            • brettWall
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              #176
              Seriously, I want this fight to happen. I preferred the more competitive Ward vs Kovalev fight. But who are we kidding? Ward can't even decide whether to fight Golovkin or not. So let's just give up on that Kovalev fight. It's not happening.

              Fans just need to demand concrete proof and details whether this Ward guy is really serious about Golovkin, and not let him get away with just grandstanding.

              The media needs to press this guy.

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                #177
                Originally posted by BreWall
                Seriously, I want this fight to happen. I preferred the more competitive Ward vs Kovalev fight. But who are we kidding? Ward can't even decide whether to fight Golovkin or not. So let's just give up on that Kovalev fight. It's not happening.

                Fans just need to demand concrete proof and details whether this Ward guy is really serious about Golovkin, and not let him get away with just grandstanding.

                The media needs to press this guy.
                An official offer made by Roc Nation and confirmed by GGG's team is not concrete enough for you, kid?

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                • Najuk
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  A fair weight? Golovkin's team know that Ward can't make 164. That's why they put it out to the media to pretend that they actually want the fight.

                  But they really don't want it because they're making unrealistic demands.



                  Why? I thought Golovkin was supposed to be a great fighter?



                  Ward is just tired of Little G and his team talking to the media so he decided to make them a real offer, which was of course rejected out of hand by Team GGG.

                  dropping 4 pounds - unrealistic demands, are you joking?

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                    #179
                    I bet little g and his team can't wait for ward to move up to 175

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                    • brettWall
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Why? I thought Golovkin was supposed to be a great fighter?
                      Haha... I knew you're really not serious about seeing the fight. You're just content in winning forum arguments. LOL. What a joke.

                      These folks call someone a bum, yet they want him to fight the #2 P4P at his weight. Haha...

                      I'm done.

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