Will Manny Pacquaio ever recover from his Floyd loss?

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  • betmen
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    #111
    Originally posted by Zaroku
    My point is, sure he beat two great Mexican warriors Good for manny! They were old and used up.

    But he couldn't deal with Floyd! The size, the skills, I was hoping you could read between the lines, but ok!

    He got crushed like an empty San Miguel beer can!

    Floyd beat him easy. Can we all move on?
    hmmmm.....

    i still dont get it, which part of my post make you think that i think manny won may2nd fight?

    i'm pretty sure my post are about manny have loses in every important stage of his career and always bounce back because he have great mentality.

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      #112
      Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R
      Or did Floyd effectively end his career May 2nd? Losing to your hated rival in dominating fashion all while knowing you will never get to avenge the loss must be tough on the psyche.
      LOL, he seemed to recover from his other losses pretty well.

      Will Floyd ever recover from getting exposed as the biggest fraud in all of boxing? Now that is truly the question at hand isn't it?

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      • Zaroku
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        #113
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        Manny is just JMM's leftovers....the spin from F10mos is sad.
        Manny is good! Marquez better! Marquez has never, ever, ever, ever been stopped like that! Never been stopped. I had pray that to the Lord when I saw manny face plant, "please lord, put manny's soul back in his body! ". Don't destroy a nation who lives & dies on their hero!

        But I am glad he came back. Glad he beat the crap out of algierie. But manny was again too kind to not push it and retired a guy who can't punch.

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        • Zaroku
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          #114
          Originally posted by betmen
          hmmmm.....

          i still dont get it, which part of my post make you think that i think manny won may2nd fight?

          i'm pretty sure my post are about manny have loses in every important stage of his career and always bounce back because he have great mentality.

          Let me help you! He did not bounce back. He fought guys who don't hit hard! He could have chosen a puncher! Algierie?

          He should have added Malinaggi to his pre Floyd resume!

          My point is that he did not bounce back. That is your narrow view of his "bouncing back" statement!

          Please define what you believe "bouncing back" means? Beating soft opposition to help him get his confidence back? I look forward to read how you define 'bouncing back'

          And please while you are at it, can you believe beating easy opposition proves anything?

          My point of view is this, he has been Knocked out before, but he was young, hungry, and less distracted. The other two Knockout Losses, have nothing to do with the 3rd near death KO loss. Each event is a discrete event in both space and time. The illogical conclusion you want accepted is he always bounced back!

          Justify your very broad statement with support.
          Last edited by Zaroku; 09-19-2015, 08:38 AM.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Zaroku
            My point is, sure he beat two great Mexican warriors Good for manny! They were old and used up.

            But he couldn't deal with Floyd! The size, the skills, I was hoping you could read between the lines, but ok!

            He got crushed like an empty San Miguel beer can!

            Floyd beat him easy. Can we all move on?
            Really? How come his stats against Pac looked like doo-doo while his stats against tincan Berto looked like ATG numbers then? Floyd hugged his way to victory against Pac, a one armed man apparently.....pathetic.



            LOL, guess Floyd thought he was fighting Rhonda Rousey in the octagon or something.

            Total punches landed:
            Mayweather [232/410, 56%] Berto [83/495, 16%]

            Power shots landed through rd 11:
            Mayweather [132/196, 67%] Berto [39/177, 22%]



            Total punches landed:
            Mayweather [148/435, 34%] Pac [81/429, 19%]

            Power shots landed:
            Mayweather [81/168, 48%] Pac [63/236, 27%]

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            • hugh grant
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              #116
              Pac already recovered. When he injured his shoulder and still beat Floyd in many peoples eyes that something impressive.

              Floyd will never recover from JMM knocking Pac out, and Floyds biggest ever fight against a smaller guy who another smaller guy in JMM knocked out and fought 4 times. Plus the IV fluid gate, that is what Floyd will be remembered for.....controversy.

              Unless Floyd fights GGG he will never recover and be considered in the league of Duran and SRL and Pac. Pac took risks Floyd has yet to do.

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              • betmen
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                #117
                Originally posted by Zaroku
                Let me help you! He did not bounce back. He fought guys who don't hit hard! He could have chosen a puncher! Algierie?

                He should have added Malinaggi to his pre Floyd resume!

                My point is that he did not bounce back. That is your narrow view of his "bouncing back" statement!


                What?! is Bambam rios not powerful enough? surely he is taylor made for pacquiao but facing dangerous man opponent like bambam after get KTFO in classic war is pretty daring,. you wont give hin credit for that?

                after rios come Bradley 2, it was good performance beating p4p fighter and elite young talent in a rematch, you wont give him credit for that either?
                Last edited by betmen; 09-19-2015, 08:44 AM.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  LOL, he seemed to recover from his other losses pretty well.

                  Will Floyd ever recover from getting exposed as the biggest fraud in all of boxing? Now that is truly the question at hand isn't it?
                  I agree, but there is a difference! I think Floyd needs to explain a lot of things. My personal opinion. I think he experts too much influence, another opinion.

                  I feel, he has tarnished his legacy, a feeling, not a fact!

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                  • noStylez
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                    #119
                    I don't think anyone recovers from a Floyd fight, I think Floyd's opponents get so bored they never are the same...they second guess why they would want to box if it's so boring to step in the ring.

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                    • Zaroku
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Pac already recovered. When he injured his shoulder and still beat Floyd in many peoples eyes that something impressive.

                      Floyd will never recover from JMM knocking Pac out, and Floyds biggest ever fight against a smaller guy who another smaller guy in JMM knocked out and fought 4 times. Plus the IV fluid gate, that is what Floyd will be remembered for.....controversy.

                      Unless Floyd fights GGG he will never recover and be considered in the league of Duran and SRL and Pac. Pac took risks Floyd has yet to do.
                      In my opinion, I believe Floyd fought damaged goods after he saw Marquez win. In my opinion early in his career he lost to Castillo. In my opinion, he is not TBE, and it is shameful to hear him say it!

                      He will never be an ATG in my book.

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