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Originally posted by sterilizer
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I agree almost 100% with Beristain.
People like Mayweather and Ward do hurt boxing. I agree that the fights are boring (actually even calling those "fights" is utterly ridiculous, the real term is an Olympic-style super-defensive and speculative boxing match).
Where I don't agree is on how much Nacho praises Floyd's so-called "boxing skills." I am tired of people being so politically correct because Mayweather is American, the highest likely source of income in sports today, and they don't want to hurt their chances of any future business dealings with him.
If he and so many other people who state semi-cowardly opinions would say it like it is, that is, that he has really hurt boxing not only because of his cowardly super-defensive and boring style of "fighting" but more than anything, because his money has evidently bought referees in his favor (never ever penalized for blatant excessive clinching, pushing, elbowing, illegal punching, yet his opponents are always warned, reprimanded and intimidated by the referee in turn, because AS A CONSEQUENCE of Floyd starting the cheating and illegal tactics, they start doing illegal stuff themselves, typically low-punching, rabbit punching or pushing him harshly like Maidana did). But Floyd is ALWAYS the starter of the cheating tactics and he never ever gets even a warning from that, guess why? Because he takes care of the referees, the judges, the commentators, the venue (fighting ALWAYS where he wants to fight). And I have the su****ion that he also "takes care" of his opponents, financially, so they fight the worst fight of their lives, in order to have a chance to fight him and become millionaires, so they can assure a nice financial future.
He compares himself with people like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson and other greats in boxing who were good defense-wise, but I ask this, which of any of those, or any other greats like Tyson, Haggler, Hearns, Duran and so many others were involved in super-boring fights all the time, where they were the solely ones responsible for making the fight so boring? All of those people acted like men and traded when they had to trade. They frequently had spectacular knock outs. They weren't pickers and did trickery like forcing a lightweight to become a welterweight in a few months as he did with Marquez, and then, to add injury to insult, weigh above the weight limit, pay a fine, and come to fight night way heavier, way leaner and more muscular, way faster and with better reflexes than a poor guy who was naturally much smaller, and at that time way lighter in weight, in much worse shape, AND STILL if you see the fight, being completely unbiased against any of the two fighters, you will see that the only one who threw beautiful and classic 4-5-6-punch combination punches was Marquez and he did it lots of times, but he was so ridiculously small and out of shape that that cowardly Mayweather even laughed at him because he didn't feel much power in his punches. Had he fought the same Hulkquez that busted Pacquiao unconscious, does any one realistically think he would have laughed at his MUCH BETTER punching skills?
Anyways, that Floyd guy is not worth wasting any words. AFAIK he is the very worst thing that has happened to boxing in the whole history of the sport. So good riddance, Nacho is right. But people, say the whole truth, mention how a cheater he always was, not only the fact that his "defensive" (super-cowardly rather) "fighting" style was super-boring. He did tons of illegal stuff in every single major fight he was involved in where he was compromised, yet nobody with a current high-profile in boxing today seems to have the guts to mention that.
People like Mayweather and Ward do hurt boxing. I agree that the fights are boring (actually even calling those "fights" is utterly ridiculous, the real term is an Olympic-style super-defensive and speculative boxing match).
Where I don't agree is on how much Nacho praises Floyd's so-called "boxing skills." I am tired of people being so politically correct because Mayweather is American, the highest likely source of income in sports today, and they don't want to hurt their chances of any future business dealings with him.
If he and so many other people who state semi-cowardly opinions would say it like it is, that is, that he has really hurt boxing not only because of his cowardly super-defensive and boring style of "fighting" but more than anything, because his money has evidently bought referees in his favor (never ever penalized for blatant excessive clinching, pushing, elbowing, illegal punching, yet his opponents are always warned, reprimanded and intimidated by the referee in turn, because AS A CONSEQUENCE of Floyd starting the cheating and illegal tactics, they start doing illegal stuff themselves, typically low-punching, rabbit punching or pushing him harshly like Maidana did). But Floyd is ALWAYS the starter of the cheating tactics and he never ever gets even a warning from that, guess why? Because he takes care of the referees, the judges, the commentators, the venue (fighting ALWAYS where he wants to fight). And I have the su****ion that he also "takes care" of his opponents, financially, so they fight the worst fight of their lives, in order to have a chance to fight him and become millionaires, so they can assure a nice financial future.
He compares himself with people like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson and other greats in boxing who were good defense-wise, but I ask this, which of any of those, or any other greats like Tyson, Haggler, Hearns, Duran and so many others were involved in super-boring fights all the time, where they were the solely ones responsible for making the fight so boring? All of those people acted like men and traded when they had to trade. They frequently had spectacular knock outs. They weren't pickers and did trickery like forcing a lightweight to become a welterweight in a few months as he did with Marquez, and then, to add injury to insult, weigh above the weight limit, pay a fine, and come to fight night way heavier, way leaner and more muscular, way faster and with better reflexes than a poor guy who was naturally much smaller, and at that time way lighter in weight, in much worse shape, AND STILL if you see the fight, being completely unbiased against any of the two fighters, you will see that the only one who threw beautiful and classic 4-5-6-punch combination punches was Marquez and he did it lots of times, but he was so ridiculously small and out of shape that that cowardly Mayweather even laughed at him because he didn't feel much power in his punches. Had he fought the same Hulkquez that busted Pacquiao unconscious, does any one realistically think he would have laughed at his MUCH BETTER punching skills?
Anyways, that Floyd guy is not worth wasting any words. AFAIK he is the very worst thing that has happened to boxing in the whole history of the sport. So good riddance, Nacho is right. But people, say the whole truth, mention how a cheater he always was, not only the fact that his "defensive" (super-cowardly rather) "fighting" style was super-boring. He did tons of illegal stuff in every single major fight he was involved in where he was compromised, yet nobody with a current high-profile in boxing today seems to have the guts to mention that.
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