Comments Thread For: Amir Khan: Mayweather Not TBE, Could Be in Top Five

[Farrod]

Castillo said it so it must be true....it obviously makes him look better saying he lost to a top 3 fighter and if Floyd is top 3 of all time what does that say about Cesar Soto who KO'd him in 2 rounds or Javier Jauregui who KO'd him twice before he even fought Mayweather??? I guess that makes 1. Soto 2. Jauregui and 3. Floyd.

Not interested in anything other than adding ANOTHER fighter that you obviously respect that places among the greatest of the greats.

[Brassangel]

Mayweather hasn't had the greatest fights ever, that's for sure. At least not from a memorable or competitive standpoint. He hasn't proven himself a warrior. He hasn't overcome much in the way of in-ring adversity. He virtually NEVER fought the other greats of his era during their respective prime years. Consider:

De La Hoya - Older, long time away from the ring, yet could have beaten Mayweather with 3-4 more jabs each round.

Mosley - Older, slower, yet had Mayweather out on his feet in the early rounds. Had Floyd not held onto Mosley's arm like grim death, he would have been KO'd. Luckily for Money, Shane didn't have the stamina anymore to keep it up.

Cotto - Had been on the downward trend, physically, for a while, especially after two brutal beatings. First by a cheater in Margarito, and a then-invincible Pacquiao. Even so, he lumped up Floyd's face something good, and was often only millimeters from paydirt. A younger, fresher Cotto, with perhaps Roach in his corner could actually have outboxed Floyd. Yes, I said it...

Alvarez - WAY too green at the time of this fight. He had no big-game experience yet, and no ring generalship. Just a promising talent who beat up some has-beens and stepping stones. He may go on to become an all-time great, but it was practically a joke that Floyd took him on when he did.

Pacquiao - This fight happened 6 years too late. There was a time when Pacquiao would have beaten anyone within 20 pounds of him, Mayweather included. Floyd chickened out of it any way he could, and that is not an opinion. It is known fact, and anyone who thinks otherwise is disqualified from an intelligent discussion about boxing.

That said, Floyd did beat some good fighters at their best, like Ricky Hatton, Marcos Maidana (though the first one was ugly), Arturo Gatti, Jose Luis Castillo (though again, the first one was ugly), and Diego Corrales. Granted, none of those guys are on the level of the ones listed above, but respectable wins nonetheless.

Floyd is talented enough to take on anyone from the great pound-for-pound lists, within a reasonable weight class range, and come out on top. In a boring, 12-round decision, of course. He wouldn't go toe-to-toe with any of them, however, and that's the problem. He wouldn't prove he's more of a warrior/fighter than them, only that he can create awkward space between guys and hit once without getting hit back.

Record is not one of the most important statistics when determining all-time greatness, especially if any of the wins/losses are considered questionable (such as Castillo I). It's also virtually impossible to compare him to guys from long-forgotten eras like Henry Armstrong or Joe Gans, both with remarkable physiques, scientific methods, and who also fought countless times in fights that could drag on for literally hours.

Floyd Mayweather has given boxing some mainstream attention that it's lacked since the late 90's heavyweights stopped taking things seriously and helped bring it crashing to the ground. He must be credited with that. He did so as a businessman, however, and not for being an entertaining warrior in the ring.

On trained skill alone, he'd be a top 20 pound-for-pound fighter all-time. This is still a remarkable accomplishment.

[SkillspayBills]

Using an unbiased analysis, of all the fighters in the top 25, and where Mayweather matches up with their accomplishments, I think Mayweather belongs in the 10-20 ATG. That's still a hell of an accomplishment.

To be considered one of the 20 best fighters to ever exist is all someone can ask for. **** even BEING in the conversation is all someone could ask for.

[SkillspayBills]

Mayweather hasn't had the greatest fights ever, that's for sure. At least not from a memorable or competitive standpoint. He hasn't proven himself a warrior. He hasn't overcome much in the way of in-ring adversity. He virtually NEVER fought the other greats of his era during their respective prime years. Consider:




That said, Floyd did beat some good fighters at their best, like Ricky Hatton, Marcos Maidana (though the first one was ugly), Arturo Gatti, Jose Luis Castillo (though again, the first one was ugly), and Diego Corrales. Granted, none of those guys are on the level of the ones listed above, but respectable wins nonetheless.





Floyd Mayweather has given boxing some mainstream attention that it's lacked since the late 90's heavyweights stopped taking things seriously and helped bring it crashing to the ground. He must be credited with that. He did so as a businessman, however, and not for being an entertaining warrior in the ring.

On trained skill alone, he'd be a top 20 pound-for-pound fighter all-time. This is still a remarkable accomplishment.

You can literally...and I mean LITERALLY do this to any fighter's resumes. Poke prod and try to put holes to discredit them. Literally anyone in history. That's why it is a farcical tactic. At the end of the day history will show a kind eye towards Floyd's resume and all the great fighters he put on it.