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  • krazyn8tive
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    #211
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Mayweather broke WADA rules, unfortunately for Pacquiao WADA doesn't make the rules for professional boxing.
    Nsac operates under wada guidelines. Do your homework.

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    • HeroBando
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      #212
      Originally posted by doom_specialist
      It was happening a day before the fight. USADA knew of and approved the IV. Don't know what else you want if a guy needs an IV within 24 hours of a fight occurring.

      I edited my last comment btw. Kinda explains why I think all of this is ******ed.
      Maybe he should drink some water. Other big drainers like Rios have done it

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #213
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Cmon man, he used 15x the legal amount of the masking agent that helped Lance pass tests for years. And this is "I walk at 150" Floyd. Gtfo
        Saline's primary use is a masking drugs now? He took saline used for rehydrating after losing water weight for a weigh in.


        As far as i know NSAC has no limit on the amount of saline, WADA does. Boxers follow NSAC rules not WADAs.

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          #214
          Originally posted by krazyn8tive
          Nsac operates under wada guidelines. Do your homework.
          No they don't. They follow WADAs banned substance list, but saline isn't a banned substance.

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          • doom_specialist
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            #215
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Maybe he should drink some water. Other big drainers like Rios have done it
            Except that drinking water when you're dehydrated doesn't guarantee proper hydration. He was going over the WADA limit, notified the proper body (as the NSAC wouldn't care), and was approved. Not much else to say.

            The only real problem is that he was administered an IV at home, and the NSAC was upset with the lack of communication. Again, if he filed for a TUE to have it at home, the NSAC would have denied it (Bennett himself said that he couldn't even remember filing an exemption for an IV drip). Floyd would have then went to the hospital and got it anyway (I mean hell, he has USADA in his pocket apparently, so the jackass must know a doctor or two). This is such a non-issue it hurts.

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            • jaded
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              #216
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              Saline's primary use is a masking drugs now? He took saline used for rehydrating after losing water weight for a weigh in.


              As far as i know NSAC has no limit on the amount of saline, WADA does. Boxers follow NSAC rules not WADAs.
              There is no advantage to using IV for normal re-hydration purposes. Drinking water is safer and just as effective. Mayweather doesn't dehydrate/cut weight for weigh-ins. You're making yourself look real bad here but keep going...I do enjoy a good laugh.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                To be fair, people also lost their minds when Pacquiao took saltwater.

                Also, all of the things Pacquiao took are OK as per WADA. IV saline is not. Nice try

                EDIT: Also, he didn't take Toradol because USADA told him to phuck off with his non-prohibited drugs.
                Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-12-2015, 01:12 AM.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                  Consider this though. Going after USADA would also mean you're going after everyone they test. Which includes all of the US Olympians like LeBron and Kobe. Now do you think American sports media would want to potentially bring down all of their Olympians? Would they want to even cast some shadow of doubt over the thousands of athletes tested by USADA?
                  wow, what a view? this one tops the cake!!

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                  • doom_specialist
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by jaded
                    There is no advantage to using IV for normal re-hydration purposes. Drinking water is safer and just as effective. Mayweather doesn't dehydrate/cut weight for weigh-ins. You're making yourself look real bad here but keep going...I do enjoy a good laugh.


                    IV vs. Oral
                    The practice of using intravenous (IV) fluids to rehydrate athletes appears to be fairly common, whether it's in the NFL, collegiate football1, at a marathon or after a triathlon. There are unquestioned medical benefits for providing an IV to a dehydrated athlete who is semi- or unconscious or who can not tolerate oral fluids. The prevailing notions among many sports health professionals are that an IV:

                    Is more effective than oral rehydration in rehydrating a dehydrated athlete.
                    Will provide a greater performance edge (over rehydrating orally) for an athlete between two bouts of exercise, such as the first and second halves of a football game or in between multiple daily workouts.

                    Why blatantly lie when Google exists?

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by doom_specialist
                      Except that drinking water when you're dehydrated doesn't guarantee proper hydration. He was going over the WADA limit, notified the proper body (as the NSAC wouldn't care), and was approved. Not much else to say.

                      The only real problem is that he was administered an IV at home, and the NSAC was upset with the lack of communication. Again, if he filed for a TUE to have it at home, the NSAC would have denied it (Bennett himself said that he couldn't even remember filing an exemption for an IV drip). Floyd would have then went to the hospital and got it anyway (I mean hell, he has USADA in his pocket apparently, so the jackass must know a doctor or two). This is such a non-issue it hurts.
                      Even on USADA's website they say that there is a wealth of medical literature that suggests oral rehydration is preferable over IV.

                      Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and/or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport. Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.
                      Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-12-2015, 01:24 AM.

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