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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostIt was happening a day before the fight. USADA knew of and approved the IV. Don't know what else you want if a guy needs an IV within 24 hours of a fight occurring.
I edited my last comment btw. Kinda explains why I think all of this is ******ed.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostCmon man, he used 15x the legal amount of the masking agent that helped Lance pass tests for years. And this is "I walk at 150" Floyd. Gtfo
As far as i know NSAC has no limit on the amount of saline, WADA does. Boxers follow NSAC rules not WADAs.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostMaybe he should drink some water. Other big drainers like Rios have done it
The only real problem is that he was administered an IV at home, and the NSAC was upset with the lack of communication. Again, if he filed for a TUE to have it at home, the NSAC would have denied it (Bennett himself said that he couldn't even remember filing an exemption for an IV drip). Floyd would have then went to the hospital and got it anyway (I mean hell, he has USADA in his pocket apparently, so the jackass must know a doctor or two). This is such a non-issue it hurts.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostSaline's primary use is a masking drugs now? He took saline used for rehydrating after losing water weight for a weigh in.
As far as i know NSAC has no limit on the amount of saline, WADA does. Boxers follow NSAC rules not WADAs.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
Also, all of the things Pacquiao took are OK as per WADA. IV saline is not. Nice try
EDIT: Also, he didn't take Toradol because USADA told him to phuck off with his non-prohibited drugs.Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-12-2015, 01:12 AM.
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostConsider this though. Going after USADA would also mean you're going after everyone they test. Which includes all of the US Olympians like LeBron and Kobe. Now do you think American sports media would want to potentially bring down all of their Olympians? Would they want to even cast some shadow of doubt over the thousands of athletes tested by USADA?
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Originally posted by jaded View PostThere is no advantage to using IV for normal re-hydration purposes. Drinking water is safer and just as effective. Mayweather doesn't dehydrate/cut weight for weigh-ins. You're making yourself look real bad here but keep going...I do enjoy a good laugh.
IV vs. Oral
The practice of using intravenous (IV) fluids to rehydrate athletes appears to be fairly common, whether it's in the NFL, collegiate football1, at a marathon or after a triathlon. There are unquestioned medical benefits for providing an IV to a dehydrated athlete who is semi- or unconscious or who can not tolerate oral fluids. The prevailing notions among many sports health professionals are that an IV:
Is more effective than oral rehydration in rehydrating a dehydrated athlete.
Will provide a greater performance edge (over rehydrating orally) for an athlete between two bouts of exercise, such as the first and second halves of a football game or in between multiple daily workouts.
Why blatantly lie when Google exists?
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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostExcept that drinking water when you're dehydrated doesn't guarantee proper hydration. He was going over the WADA limit, notified the proper body (as the NSAC wouldn't care), and was approved. Not much else to say.
The only real problem is that he was administered an IV at home, and the NSAC was upset with the lack of communication. Again, if he filed for a TUE to have it at home, the NSAC would have denied it (Bennett himself said that he couldn't even remember filing an exemption for an IV drip). Floyd would have then went to the hospital and got it anyway (I mean hell, he has USADA in his pocket apparently, so the jackass must know a doctor or two). This is such a non-issue it hurts.
Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and/or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport. Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-12-2015, 01:24 AM.
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