Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

[QballLobo]

Max makes a great point early on. VADA catches cheaters and cancels fights, USADA is much more expensive but they don't cancel fights.
Seems people are paying a premium to ensure the result they want....

[baCCaT]

screw pac's jesus saltwater and floyd's iv vitamins.

i shoot up bacon fat.

that in fast drip or slow IV drip? lol

OT : yeah its expected that pro athletes have a higher level of testosterone compared to an average joe in whatever age group they belong.

[Disturbed]

Hmm, well he sure got into good shape with that low T

[-PBP-]

This is a question from a guy who has no knowledge on this subject so before any of you Pac turds wet your whitey tighties suck a ****.

Anyways, he's almost 40. Shouldn't his testosterone levels be lower than the average man?

[Clegg]

Earlier today on ESPN Radio Max and Marcellus

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losange...ay?id=13627009

Max talks about Floyd's Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio.

Avg white man 1.2 to 1 T/E.

Avg. black man 1.3 to 1 T/E.

WADA allows athletes to have T/E ratio as high as 4.0 to 1.

Floyd's T/E in previous tests was 0.69 to 1 and 0.8 to 1.

Low ratio of T/E is a red flag for PED use because it indicates "MASKING" to hide/lower high testosterone levels.

I found it surprising that he had a higher ratio in 2013 than in 2011. Seems unusual for a man in his late 30s to have a natural rise in testosterone. I'm not exactly a scientist though (unlike all the desperate Floyd fans today ) so not sure how significant that is.

[vorgaphe]

Testosterone and epitestosterone are naturally occurring hormones. Testosterone is performance enhancing. Epitestosterone is not.

A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

“In and of itself,” Conte explains, “an abnormally low T-E ratio is not proof of doping. The ratio can vary for the same athlete from test to test. But an abnormally low T-E ratio is a red flag. And if you’re serious about the testing, the next thing you do [after a low T-E ratio test result] is administer a CIR test on the same sample.”

Earlier this year, in response to a request for documents, the Nevada State Athletic Commission produced two lab reports listing the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio on tests that it (not USADA) had overseen on Floyd Mayweather. In one instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on Aug. 18, 2011 (prior to his Sept. 17 fight against Victor Ortiz). In the other instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on April 3, 2013 (prior to his May 4 fight against Robert Guerrero).

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

This explains why the results are red flags. Athletes usually have much higher testosterone levels and Mayweather should have been tested further.

[cupocity303]

WELL, this all but guarantees that Floyd can't wait to retire. They are on to him.

There is no way that he have longevity with this kind of scrutiny on his ass.

[Bushbaby]

Man, all this controversy is to hopefully unflop the flop. This ppv is busted, no one really cares and they're trying any and everything to rebound the sales. I hope it flops good and proper. Oh yeah, and all them Floyd fans need to eat some crow, cheating bastard.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Avg White man equal 1.2

Avg Black man equal 1.3

Ofcourse Floyd will avg .69 because his dong is smaller then an avg man.

lmfao no **** but I wonder what is Cotto ratio

[-Antonio-]

The huge red flag to me is this...

The absolute max allowed ml using an iv is 50 ML

FLOYD USED 750! You can't tell me that isn't su****ious. I'm seriously starting to think Floyd and JMM before him started thinking if you can't beat him, join him.