Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

Man, even this article mentions what I have stated. Floyd told FightHype that it was "just rehydrating"

The widely-reported justification for Mayweather’s IV is that it was administered to remedy dehydration. On September 11, Mayweather told an interviewer for FightHype.com that he’d been “just rehydrating.”

That’s also what USADA suggested to the Nevada State Athletic Commission when it advised the NSAC on May 21 (nineteen days after Mayweather-Pacquiao) that “the infusion was administered to address concerns related to dehydration.”

But once the scandal came to the surface, USADA couldn't get themselves to even say that it was dehydration!

One word that USADA’s “Detailed Correction” does not mention is “dehydrated.” Nor does it use “dehydration” or any derivative thereof.

Most likely, that’s because the available evidence strongly suggests that Floyd Mayweather was not dehydrated.

[travestyny]

No, that is NOT stating that non-threshold susbtances cannot have a threshold type criteria test!

That is you getting it all WRONG!


On the other hand, I can find statements where an expert is mentioned that there can be a threshold type test!


That is why you are so so SCARED, DUCKY!!!!!



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Stop lying to yourself bltch. YOU CAN'T PROVE THE COURT WRONG, DUMMY!


Here is your statement.

The threshold test result indicates that there is synthetic EPO if it exceeds the threshold. If less, the indication is that there is only human EPO.

Here is the court's statement.

there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

DIRECT CONTRADICTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD ABOVE WHICH IT CAN BE SAID THERE IS NON-HUMAN PRODUCTION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR NOT?

EXPLAIN

NO REALLY. TELL US THAT YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT OF OUR DEBATE, DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE COURT SAYS. FESS UP, BlTCH!

ADP'S INITIAL STATEMENT

2) The resulting data is validated against specific threshold criteria, when artificial EPO, in relation to naturally occurring EPO, exceeds threshold limits.

CHECKMATE

[travestyny]

So out of all 500 pages is there a real explanation on why a true 147lbers (he looks fat at 150) would be dehydrated and need to hydrate with IVs when thats more or less his fighting weight anyway?
FM isnt the type to gain 15lbs or barely even 5lb from weigh to fight night

There are clear explanations.

1. Because athletes get dehydrated. Go check out the 24/7 regarding the Mosley fight and see where Mayweather was dehydrated.

2. Because maybe it wasn't so related to his weight.
check out what happened to Stiverne when he was dehydrated or Dos Santos story, who had the same condition that causes dehydration.

3. Could it be chronic dehydration dependent more on his natural walking around rate.


No one would know without the medical records. But the point is that an IV masks a urine test via dilution. Not only was a DCO present who took a sample before and after the IV, but also the DCO is required to check the sample for dilution, and then the sample is sent to the independent lab with no identification, and then checked for dilution once again.

[ADP02]

No, that is NOT stating that non-threshold susbtances cannot have a threshold type criteria test!

That is you getting it all WRONG!


On the other hand, I can find statements where an expert is mentioned that there can be a threshold type test!


That is why you are so so SCARED, DUCKY!!!!!





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Stop lying to yourself bltch. YOU CAN'T PROVE THE COURT WRONG, DUMMY!


Here is your statement.



Here is the court's statement.


DIRECT CONTRADICTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD ABOVE WHICH IT CAN BE SAID THERE IS NON-HUMAN PRODUCTION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR NOT?

EXPLAIN

NO REALLY. TELL US THAT YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT OF OUR DEBATE, DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE COURT SAYS. FESS UP, BlTCH!

ADP'S INITIAL STATEMENT

DUCKY,
The CAS panel is NOT WRONG!

Your interpretation of what the CAS panel said is what is WRONG!!!



The CAS panel was not correcting EXPERTs who have called a test criteria a threshold type test. That was your own incorrect interpretation!!!!


The CAS panel was clearly telling the athlete and you, DUCKY, that EPO is not a threshold substance and mentioned a threshold substance and that EPO is tested differently than the threshold substance that they named.

BUT you went on to this that it meant that there cannot be a threshold type test! That is where you royally FAILED BIG TIME!!!!



You were once confident with your statements BUT ever since I challenged you DUCKY, you have been QUACKING!!!!



ADP02:

- CAS Panel's statements are NOT WRONG.

- EXPERTs who mentioned threshold for EPO testing were NOT WRONG.


- Travestny is the one who is WRONG for thinking that there cannot be threshold type tests for non-threshold susbtances!






Travestyny:


- Experts who said there were threshold type tests for EPO were WRONG.


Why?


Traevstyny thinks that the CAS panel corrected those EXPERTs!



Travestyny, the DUCK, is laughing yet cannot accept the challenge of this thread.

NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!



That I can PROVE DUCKY BUT you are too scared to accept! !!!!

QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!!




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[CHOWWOKKA]

Are you two still doing this 😂

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Damn why mayweather, and I just seen Victor Conte explain why cheaters perfer the wada/usada testing too and sounded like he was describing mawyeather to a T (if thats the saying) but he wasnt even speaking about anyone in particualr was just explaining why a cheater would choose wada/usada testing over vada.

[ADP02]

There are clear explanations.

1. Because athletes get dehydrated. Go check out the 24/7 regarding the Mosley fight and see where Mayweather was dehydrated.

2. Because maybe it wasn't so related to his weight.
check out what happened to Stiverne when he was dehydrated or Dos Santos story, who had the same condition that causes dehydration.

3. Could it be chronic dehydration dependent more on his natural walking around rate.


No one would know without the medical records. But the point is that an IV masks a urine test via dilution. Not only was a DCO present who took a sample before and after the IV, but also the DCO is required to check the sample for dilution, and then the sample is sent to the independent lab with no identification, and then checked for dilution once again.

DUCKY,

1) What happens when you are deydrated severally? You tend to lose lots of fluids!

BUT Floyd weighed in like he usually weighs in at
BUT Floyd then went on to drink lots of fluids
BUT Floyd has walked around at 148 for a decade as oer Floyd's own admission.
BUT against Mosley, Floyd had just done a heavy workout. His final days against Manny, his workouts would be reduced substantially. Floyd even admitted to that in several interviews!!!




2) Floyd said it was "JUST Rehydration". Sorry!

Floyd had to let NSAC know about any medical conditions!!!!


Plus weren't those guys diagnosed after a fight? Didn't they go to the hospital?


Floyd didn't go to the hospital and said in several interviews that his PLAN for the last few days was to RELAX … just some "Shakeout" type activities!!! Similar to a pre-warm up type routine!




3) This is the most dumbest response that you have ever resorted to!
- Read what I said above. It covers most of what crushes what you just said.
- Floyd applauded Dr Ariza for helping him with eating/fluids/hydrating.

Chronic dehydration is mostly for amateurs (excluding elderly people) who do not know how to recoup from a workout! AGAIN, Floyd weighed in at 146. BANG ON!!!

Floyd drank constantly!!!! WTF are you QUACKING about!!! That is the opposite of someone who is incorrectly rehydrates! He has a team that makes sure that he doesn't dehydrate! They went as far as to get a freaking ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!



We had more information on Floyd than you would for most people.
- Vitals were good
- Weight normal
- drank constantly
- Weigh-in video … Floyd and his fans said that he looked great!

- Pre-fight form - Floyd didn't report any related medical conditions.

- Interviews: - It was JUST for rehydration.



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[Laszlo]

Damn why mayweather, and I just seen Victor Conte explain why cheaters perfer the wada/usada testing too and sounded like he was describing mawyeather to a T (if thats the saying) but he wasnt even speaking about anyone in particualr was just explaining why a cheater would choose wada/usada testing over vada.

Did floyd take steroids?

[travestyny]

I THINK YOU GET THE POINT NOW, DON'T YOU?

The threshold test result indicates that there is synthetic EPO if it exceeds the threshold. If less, the indication is that there is only human EPO.

there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

SO WHOOOO WAS CORRECTED, ADP???? LMAOOOOO! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT BUSTED WITH THE SAME EXACT ARGUMENT AS THE ATHLETE. AND YOU KNOW I CAN PROVE IT!

4-0!!!!!!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740888

When you decide that you want that recount that you offered and bowed down from, do let me know.

Can we now have a recount?

Actually there needs to be some changes ..... like ..... No Mayweather Mafia judges

.

REQUEST FOR A RECOUNT GRANTED FOR ALL POINTS AND PERMANENT BAN. IF YOU DARE STEP UP TO THAT RECOUNT OFFER OF YOURS, DO LET ME KNOW, YEA?

I BET YOU DUCK YOUR OWN CHALLENGE ONCE AGAIN, DON'T YOU, ADP02? OF COURSE YOU WILL. AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY IT'S OVER, YOU SLIMY BUTTHURT BET WELCHING LITTLE BlTCH. YOU'RE NOT EVEN A MAN YOU FVVCKING COWARD. SUCK A DlCK AND DIE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ALL YOU'RE GOOD AT. MAKING ALL TYPES OF STUPID CHALLENGES AND WHEN I ACCEPT YOU TUCK YOUR TAIL AND SCURRY OFF. YOU DICKLESS COWARD. I'M HAPPY I TURNED YOU INTO A PATHETIC TROLL. GO CHECK YOUR ASS INTO RECOVERY, BlTCH!

[CENTER]

READY FOR THAT PERMANENT BAN RECOUNT THAT YOU ASKED FOR???

OR CRY FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS UNIL YOU CHOKE AND DIE. IT'S OVER!

[travestyny]

DUCKY,

1) What happens when you are deydrated severally? You tend to lose lots of fluids!

BUT Floyd weighed in like he usually weighs in at
BUT Floyd then went on to drink lots of fluids
BUT Floyd has walked around at 148 for a decade as oer Floyd's own admission.
BUT against Mosley, Floyd had just done a heavy workout. His final days against Manny, his workouts would be reduced substantially. Floyd even admitted to that in several interviews!!!




2) Floyd said it was "JUST Rehydration". Sorry!

Floyd had to let NSAC know about any medical conditions!!!!


Plus weren't those guys diagnosed after a fight? Didn't they go to the hospital?


Floyd didn't go to the hospital and said in several interviews that his PLAN for the last few days was to RELAX … just some "Shakeout" type activities!!! Similar to a pre-warm up type routine!




3) This is the most dumbest response that you have ever resorted to!
- Read what I said above. It covers most of what crushes what you just said.
- Floyd applauded Dr Ariza for helping him with eating/fluids/hydrating.

Chronic dehydration is mostly for amateurs (excluding elderly people) who do not know how to recoup from a workout! AGAIN, Floyd weighed in at 146. BANG ON!!!

Floyd drank constantly!!!! WTF are you QUACKING about!!! That is the opposite of someone who is incorrectly rehydrates! He has a team that makes sure that he doesn't dehydrate! They went as far as to get a freaking ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!



We had more information on Floyd than you would for most people.
- Vitals were good
- Weight normal
- drank constantly
- Weigh-in video … Floyd and his fans said that he looked great!

- Pre-fight form - Floyd didn't report any related medical conditions.

- Interviews: - It was JUST for rehydration.



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You could never crush anything that I've said. If you could, you woudn't have lost the debate 4-0....and the result of the fight would have been reversed a long time ago.


Give up. I'm tired of kicking you around this board.


One simple question destroys you:

An IV masks a urine test result by dilution.

Floyd's sample was tested for dilution by both the DCO and by the independent WADA Lab.


So how did he dilute his sample and pass the two different tests for dilution.

Oh, that's right. You said because there is a problem with the specific gravity test.


Game over, bltch. Your conspiracy theories never made any sense and were destroyed. Get over it.