Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

Whats wrong with ya'll?? seriously whats wrong with ya'll no one cares at all yet the same posters keep putting this thread on the front page

Larry, for 6+ years, you were OK with Floyd and company calling Manny a PEDs cheat. It was not just 1 thread but 100s and 10000s of posts. Non-stop. Where was your "seriously what's wrong with you all"

Just look under my username at what is written. A Floyd fan did that. Just saying.

[ADP02]

you feel better now?

Larry, how many threads and posts do you have about Floyd since his retirement? So you want us to just say "nice things" about your hero Floyd. Got it!

[ADP02]

I've been here 4 years longer than you...original account was banned by the "hoe stick"...lurked the forum up until this past September but that's neither here nor there...way to avoid the point doe!...LOL!...

What I meant is that even before the IV scandal came up, Floyd's record was question from different angles. The IV scandal will not help Floyd. It will just put more questions on it.

I was trying to give you a break since I thought you were new! Like you, I have been here longer than my account states.


So you say that you have been here for a long time then why can't you get what I said in a previous response(see above)?



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[ADP02]

Their new Battle cry, 'Peds are cool coz Floyd does it!'

Yup. Now just like Floyd, Floyd's fans are looking for loopholes instead of "trying to clean up the sport".


Why the fight was stalled for 5+ years:
"All I want is a fair fight" - Floyd Mayweather


Then Floyd gets USADA to agree to a contract whereby if Floyd's tests come back positive then he can get a retroactive TUE and not have to let his opponent nor NSAC know about it. Now go back and read the above paragraph and why this fight was delayed for 5+ years.
Comical ... but Floyd fans are still buying Floyd's KoolAid today. Its all there but they still can't see.



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[Zaroku]

Thank you sir! My sentiments exactly...we'd see a rematch if it wasn't for manny's poor sportsmanship...he was taking selfies with that right arm and never grimaced or once motioned that his shoulder was a problem...if anything his claims that he was healed by salt water then playing basketball should serve enough proof that his shoulder was a scam..."Shoulder Gate"...LOL!...

Exactly! Manny is a poor sport. Selfies, hoops, salt water, tight socks, speaking in tongues! Silly stuff really. Only delusional fans want to try to believe in PAC. They are a cult!

[Zaroku]

I have played plenty of sports. Maybe so have you, I do not know.
The point is that, I can think of situations where I was less than 100% but decided that at game time, I was good enough to start but nowhere near 100%. Then during the game the injury comes back to the same level as when it was initially injured. At times, the injury gets worse than it originally was. I have played injured and sometimes I still looked like the best player there and sometimes the injury was just too much and I didn't ....

Remember that Manny was counting on getting a pain killer since USADA APPROVED the non-prohibited drug. Floyd with no approval until after the fight, is approved and gets whatever he wants.

Manny is not Castillo nor Maidana. Those 2 are bigger than Manny and less skilled. With their size they were able to bully Floyd. Unfortunately for Maidana, Floyd made sure that he had a guard, I mean a ref that would not allow him to do anything but at the same time, unfairly allow Floyd to elbow, hug and so on. So Floyd had the best of both worlds.

Manny fought injured and still, Floyd had his lowest punch count ever. Manny had the better moments.



If Manny had no skills could he have done this? In all 4 examples, Manny had Floyd miss or block his punch then counter and connect. All 4 times, it was planned and executed as Manny wanted. All in Round 3

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Manny did better than Canelo, but Floyd beat manny easily. Manny also had a low output of punches, but a high out put of excuses.

[Real King Kong]

Yup. Now just like Floyd, Floyd's fans are looking for loopholes instead of "trying to clean up the sport".


Why the fight was stalled for 5+ years:
"All I want is a fair fight" - Floyd Mayweather


Then Floyd gets USADA to agree to a contract whereby if Floyd's tests come back positive then he can get a retroactive TUE and not have to let his opponent nor NSAC know about it. Now go back and read the above paragraph and why this fight was delayed for 5+ years.
Comical ... but Floyd fans are still buying Floyd's KoolAid today. Its all there but they still can't see.



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Interesting hypothesis. So who won the fight? How's the "investigation" coming along? It's funny how right after the fight there was pact@rd silence and the general concensus on these boards was floyd won handily. Then about a day later 1 or 2 guys started saying manny won just to be trolls. Then that snowballed into the slow mo analysis and all the pact@rds working themselves into a frenzy. The trolls trying to push the manny won angle have since backed off and now we're left with this...the last bastion of the pact@rd.

[Zaroku]

Hope you are joking around because I can name you other fighters that never got KOed but you would not dare consider them great fighters.

Very good defensive fighters take less risk so the probability is less that they get KOd. The ref, Joe Cortez, could have waved off the fight after the 3rd Marquez knock down in round 1 of fight 1. Fortunately, that did not happen or else we would not have seen fights 2, 3 and 4.

When the bigger Clottey faced Manny, he went into survival mode. He was in essence playing turtle. So if you turtle up, a turtle can't fight but will not get KOed.


GGG/Canelo/Martinez/Williams ..... the difference:
- Manny tried and went up to 150 only 1 time. He realized even before the fight that it was too much and said that it would be the first time and last time at that weight.


- Floyd fought 3 times at 154. Yet, he didn't want to risk fighting Martinez and Williams. He only fought the green, inexperienced, low work rate, bad stamina, relatively flat footed Canelo. Plus, they both held titles at 154, both fought there before yet the fight was at a CW of 152? Besides the above mentioned disadvantages that Canelo had, Floyd in essence, removed Canelo's only advantage by trying to drain him.
"There is a reason why you CW. You are trying to drain and dehydrate your opponent ..... I look at Cotto (Canelo) as an undefeated fighter."

So in essence, Floyd has said that we should NOT count the Canelo fight.


- Floyd has never fought at 160 so I didn't expect him or care for him to fight at 160 BUT then came the possibility to fight Cotto and Canelo at 160 and things changed for Floyd and his fans. They were so pumped up that Floyd can get another title at another division. Too boot, a lineal title.
So then naturally, the playing field changes. Just like Floyd avoided the riskier opponents at 154, he will do the same at 160. Floyd and his fans will revert back to "Floyd is too small to fight at MW.

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Manny can be seen as great one he stops GGG! Great fight for boxing. It can be at 154! Give PAC a catch weight, something he has often used.

[StefanTosic]

Yup. Now just like Floyd, Floyd's fans are looking for loopholes instead of "trying to clean up the sport".


Why the fight was stalled for 5+ years:
"All I want is a fair fight" - Floyd Mayweather


Then Floyd gets USADA to agree to a contract whereby if Floyd's tests come back positive then he can get a retroactive TUE and not have to let his opponent nor NSAC know about it. Now go back and read the above paragraph and why this fight was delayed for 5+ years.
Comical ... but Floyd fans are still buying Floyd's KoolAid today. Its all there but they still can't see.



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Pretty much this. There's nothing else to say, however this groupie with 3 or 4 different accounts is still trying to justify him. Now at least it's obvious to all the unbiased boxing fans that he ducked prime Manny.

[Real King Kong]

Pretty much this. There's nothing else to say, however this groupie with 3 or 4 different accounts is still trying to justify him. Now at least it's obvious to all the unbiased boxing fans that he ducked prime Manny.

Hmm...request testing that manny could have easily accepted...seems like a sure fire way to duck the fight. Lets not ignore the fact that pac walked away from 40-50 million just to avoid drug testing. I'm sure bob arum had nothing to do with the fight not being made too lol.