Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

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  • ADP02
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    Originally posted by ADP02
    No, that is NOT stating that non-threshold susbtances cannot have a threshold type criteria test!

    That is you getting it all WRONG!


    On the other hand, I can find statements where an expert is mentioned that there can be a threshold type test!


    That is why you are so so SCARED, DUCKY!!!!!





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    Originally posted by travestyny
    Stop lying to yourself bltch. YOU CAN'T PROVE THE COURT WRONG, DUMMY!


    Here is your statement.



    Here is the court's statement.


    DIRECT CONTRADICTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD ABOVE WHICH IT CAN BE SAID THERE IS NON-HUMAN PRODUCTION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR NOT?


    EXPLAIN




    NO REALLY. TELL US THAT YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT OF OUR DEBATE, DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE COURT SAYS. FESS UP, BlTCH!

    ADP'S INITIAL STATEMENT



    DUCKY,
    The CAS panel is NOT WRONG!

    Your interpretation of what the CAS panel said is what is WRONG!!!



    The CAS panel was not correcting EXPERTs who have called a test criteria a threshold type test. That was your own incorrect interpretation!!!!


    The CAS panel was clearly telling the athlete and you, DUCKY, that EPO is not a threshold substance and mentioned a threshold substance and that EPO is tested differently than the threshold substance that they named.

    BUT you went on to this that it meant that there cannot be a threshold type test! That is where you royally FAILED BIG TIME!!!!



    You were once confident with your statements BUT ever since I challenged you DUCKY, you have been QUACKING!!!!



    ADP02:

    - CAS Panel's statements are NOT WRONG.

    - EXPERTs who mentioned threshold for EPO testing were NOT WRONG.


    - Travestny is the one who is WRONG for thinking that there cannot be threshold type tests for non-threshold susbtances!






    Travestyny:


    - Experts who said there were threshold type tests for EPO were WRONG.


    Why?


    Traevstyny thinks that the CAS panel corrected those EXPERTs!



    Travestyny, the DUCK, is laughing yet cannot accept the challenge of this thread.

    NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!



    That I can PROVE DUCKY BUT you are too scared to accept! !!!!

    QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!!




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  • travestyny
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    Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
    So out of all 500 pages is there a real explanation on why a true 147lbers (he looks fat at 150) would be dehydrated and need to hydrate with IVs when thats more or less his fighting weight anyway?
    FM isnt the type to gain 15lbs or barely even 5lb from weigh to fight night

    There are clear explanations.

    1. Because athletes get dehydrated. Go check out the 24/7 regarding the Mosley fight and see where Mayweather was dehydrated.

    2. Because maybe it wasn't so related to his weight.
    check out what happened to Stiverne when he was dehydrated or Dos Santos story, who had the same condition that causes dehydration.

    3. Could it be chronic dehydration dependent more on his natural walking around rate.


    No one would know without the medical records. But the point is that an IV masks a urine test via dilution. Not only was a DCO present who took a sample before and after the IV, but also the DCO is required to check the sample for dilution, and then the sample is sent to the independent lab with no identification, and then checked for dilution once again.

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  • travestyny
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    Originally posted by ADP02
    No, that is NOT stating that non-threshold susbtances cannot have a threshold type criteria test!

    That is you getting it all WRONG!


    On the other hand, I can find statements where an expert is mentioned that there can be a threshold type test!


    That is why you are so so SCARED, DUCKY!!!!!



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    Stop lying to yourself bltch. YOU CAN'T PROVE THE COURT WRONG, DUMMY!


    Here is your statement.
    Originally posted by ADP02
    The threshold test result indicates that there is synthetic EPO if it exceeds the threshold. If less, the indication is that there is only human EPO.

    Here is the court's statement.
    there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance
    DIRECT CONTRADICTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD ABOVE WHICH IT CAN BE SAID THERE IS NON-HUMAN PRODUCTION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR NOT?


    EXPLAIN


    [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

    NO REALLY. TELL US THAT YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT OF OUR DEBATE, DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE COURT SAYS. FESS UP, BlTCH!

    ADP'S INITIAL STATEMENT

    Originally posted by ADP02
    2) The resulting data is validated against specific threshold criteria, when artificial EPO, in relation to naturally occurring EPO, exceeds threshold limits.
    CHECKMATE

    Last edited by travestyny; 09-28-2018, 01:46 AM.

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  • ADP02
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    Man, even this article mentions what I have stated. Floyd told FightHype that it was "just rehydrating"


    The widely-reported justification for Mayweather’s IV is that it was administered to remedy dehydration. On September 11, Mayweather told an interviewer for FightHype.com that he’d been “just rehydrating.”

    That’s also what USADA suggested to the Nevada State Athletic Commission when it advised the NSAC on May 21 (nineteen days after Mayweather-Pacquiao) that “the infusion was administered to address concerns related to dehydration.”

    But once the scandal came to the surface, USADA couldn't get themselves to even say that it was dehydration!


    One word that USADA’s “Detailed Correction” does not mention is “dehydrated.” Nor does it use “dehydration” or any derivative thereof.

    Most likely, that’s because the available evidence strongly suggests that Floyd Mayweather was not dehydrated.

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  • ADP02
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    Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
    So out of all 500 pages is there a real explanation on why a true 147lbers (he looks fat at 150) would be dehydrated and need to hydrate with IVs when thats more or less his fighting weight anyway?
    FM isnt the type to gain 15lbs or barely even 5lb from weigh to fight night

    You are correct!

    Here is Floyd even stating this right after getting the BANNED ILLEGAL IV!!!!


    "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything...….. Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com





    and here is Floyd packing it in before the Maidana weigh-in.


    FLOYD MAYWEATHER PACKS ON POUNDS WITH 5-COURSE BREAKFAST DAY BEFORE WEIGH-IN AHEAD OF MAIDANA CLASH

    FightHype.com got an exclusive invite to hang out with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather a day before for his May 3 title unification with WBA welterweight champion Marcos Maidana. Check out the scene as Mayweather orders a massive 5-course breakfast to help pack on the pounds before he gets set to make the 147-pound weight limit at Friday's weigh-in.

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  • ADP02
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    Originally posted by ADP02

    DUCKY,

    I thought you were going to come back and show me all those experts that said that I was wrong and you were right?


    Instead DEFLECTO DEFLECTED AGAIN!!!






    QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!

    Originally posted by travestyny
    No problem. Let me know when you understand what the court is saying, dumbass




    THE COURT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOU...AND THAT'S WHY YOU LOST 4-0



    IS THAT A GOOD ENOUGH EXPERT FOR YOU, DUMBASS???? LMAOOOOO!

    No, that is NOT stating that non-threshold susbtances cannot have a threshold type criteria test!

    That is you getting it all WRONG!


    On the other hand, I can find statements where an expert is mentioned that there can be a threshold type test!


    That is why you are so so SCARED, DUCKY!!!!!





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  • Shape up
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    Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
    So out of all 500 pages is there a real explanation on why a true 147lbers (he looks fat at 150) would be dehydrated and need to hydrate with IVs when thats more or less his fighting weight anyway?
    FM isnt the type to gain 15lbs or barely even 5lb from weigh to fight night
    Yes, because USADA let him do whatever he wanted without retribution, paid them a huge fee (vada very much cheaper) for his bonuses

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  • travestyny
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    Originally posted by ADP02
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    DUCKY,

    I thought you were going to come back and show me all those experts that said that I was wrong and you were right?


    No problem. Let me know when you understand what the court is saying, dumbass


    Originally posted by Court of Arbitration for Sport
    The reality is that the criterion for EPO is not a measurement over the threshold that must occur to take account of the human body's production. The fact is that the BAP and the other interpretative criteria are used to declare not a threshold of human body production but rather an image from the electropherogram as indicating the presence of non-human EPO. Therefore, in the case of rEPO, there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance rather there are criteria by which it can be said that what the image from this test procedure represents is rEPO. The argument of the Respondent is one of comparing apples to oranges when there is no comparison. rEPO is not produced by the body and must be administered exogenously.
    THE COURT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOU...AND THAT'S WHY YOU LOST 4-0

    Originally posted by ADP02
    The threshold test result indicates that there is synthetic EPO if it exceeds the threshold. If less, the indication is that there is only human EPO.
    IS THAT A GOOD ENOUGH EXPERT FOR YOU, DUMBASS???? LMAOOOOO!

    R.I.P.
    Last edited by travestyny; 09-27-2018, 01:40 AM.

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  • SugarRayCurtain
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    So out of all 500 pages is there a real explanation on why a true 147lbers (he looks fat at 150) would be dehydrated and need to hydrate with IVs when thats more or less his fighting weight anyway?
    FM isnt the type to gain 15lbs or barely even 5lb from weigh to fight night

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  • ADP02
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    Originally posted by travestyny
    It's pretty clear from all of the quotations I've been finding that the experts have showed that YOU are wrong



    AND THAT'S WHY YOU LOST 4-0 AND WOULD NEVER DREAM OF A REMATCH!




    GAME OVER.
    Originally posted by travestyny
    Is that what you tell yourself so that you can sleep knowing that you got decapitated 4-0, claimed you were cheated, backed down from a challenge about proving you were cheated, backed down from your own challenge, and are too pvssy to ask for a rematch.


    I'm pretty sure that means deep down you know you really lost. Do you actually think avoiding addressing a rematch, who really cheated, and then backing down from your own challenge makes you look like a bigshot or makes you look like you're too afraid because you know you legit lost

    DUCKY,

    I thought you were going to come back and show me all those experts that said that I was wrong and you were right?


    Instead DEFLECTO DEFLECTED AGAIN!!!






    QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!

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