Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

You could never crush anything that I've said. If you could, you woudn't have lost the debate 4-0....and the result of the fight would have been reversed a long time ago.


Give up. I'm tired of kicking you around this board.


One simple question destroys you:

An IV masks a urine test result by dilution.

Floyd's sample was tested for dilution by both the DCO and by the independent WADA Lab.


So how did he dilute his sample and pass the two different tests for dilution.

Oh, that's right. You said because there is a problem with the specific gravity test.


Game over, bltch. Your conspiracy theories never made any sense and were destroyed. Get over it.

DUCKY,
All of that has been answered already!


Does USADA/WADA state that they need to find out exactly how the athlete tried to cheat? NO



Does all that BS that you posted mean that there is no need for those rules anymore? NO!!!


I posted recently that USADA has suspended athletes for using IVs where it was "Just rehydration".


So unless USADA/WADA has stopped and removed that rule, your post above is BS right from the get go!!!

Finally, Floyd used an IV and it took 6+ hours to get a full urine sample from Floyd. So there was a LONG DELAY!!!

Either in this thread or another, I posted that people such as Conte mentioned that there are drugs that become untraceable just hours later. I even mentioned this to you on multiple occasions. That plus diluting your body helps and Floyd was allowed to do BOTH!!!


Also, with an IV with certain substances, the urine sample can get diluted without it being too dilute.



a more dilute sample + hours delay can drive a sample from being positive to negative.






LAB results show a specific gravity < acceptable threshold? They will not come back with a positive result (of cheating)! Furthermore, knowing that he was allowed to use the IV will make your question quite dumb to even ask, on your part, DUCKY!



BUT as I said. USADA/WADA do not need to know the details on if it was possible just that Floyd or whoever cheated!

There are cases where: The athlete doesn't even need to be tested positive to be suspended!


In fact, USADA/WADA says if a method/substance is used in error by the athlete well it is the athlete who is responsible. Canelo was found to have used Clenbuterol. If it came from meat, vitamins, … USADA/WADA didn't go searching for how …. but here you are asking me to do that!



Floyd used a BANNED ILLEGAL IV! and this helped in the delay in getting a full urine sample from Floyd who wanted the IV "just to rehydrate". Just like Lochte who was suspended for 14 months!






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[ADP02]

Stop lying to yourself bltch. YOU CAN'T PROVE THE COURT WRONG, DUMMY!


Here is your statement.



Here is the court's statement.


DIRECT CONTRADICTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD ABOVE WHICH IT CAN BE SAID THERE IS NON-HUMAN PRODUCTION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR NOT?

EXPLAIN

NO REALLY. TELL US THAT YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT OF OUR DEBATE, DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE COURT SAYS. FESS UP, BlTCH!

ADP'S INITIAL STATEMENT

CHECKMATE

I THINK YOU GET THE POINT NOW, DON'T YOU?






SO WHOOOO WAS CORRECTED, ADP???? LMAOOOOO! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT BUSTED WITH THE SAME EXACT ARGUMENT AS THE ATHLETE. AND YOU KNOW I CAN PROVE IT!

4-0!!!!!!

When you decide that you want that recount that you offered and bowed down from, do let me know.



REQUEST FOR A RECOUNT GRANTED FOR ALL POINTS AND PERMANENT BAN. IF YOU DARE STEP UP TO THAT RECOUNT OFFER OF YOURS, DO LET ME KNOW, YEA?

I BET YOU DUCK YOUR OWN CHALLENGE ONCE AGAIN, DON'T YOU, ADP02? OF COURSE YOU WILL. AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY IT'S OVER, YOU SLIMY BUTTHURT BET WELCHING LITTLE BlTCH. YOU'RE NOT EVEN A MAN YOU FVVCKING COWARD. SUCK A DlCK AND DIE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ALL YOU'RE GOOD AT. MAKING ALL TYPES OF ****** CHALLENGES AND WHEN I ACCEPT YOU TUCK YOUR TAIL AND SCURRY OFF. YOU ****LESS COWARD. I'M HAPPY I TURNED YOU INTO A PATHETIC TROLL. GO CHECK YOUR ASS INTO RECOVERY, BlTCH!


READY FOR THAT PERMANENT BAN RECOUNT THAT YOU ASKED FOR???

OR CRY FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS UNIL YOU CHOKE AND DIE. IT'S OVER!

DUCKY,
You keep on posting quotes on something that you are completely WRONG about!

BUT

You know all that since you have yet to accept a challenge on that!


DUCKY still CANNOT find his BALLs to actually defend those idiotic comparisons on quotes in a challenge!




In Summary,
Can non-threshold susbtances have a threshold type test?

DUCKY said no,

ADP02 challenged him!



DUCKY has been QUACKING for over 180+ pages!

[travestyny]

Thanks! Been busy for a while...got the itch to look back at what's going on these days at nsb...

And you realized that not much has changed, right? haha.

[tangalog2200]

Yooo, what' up man.

Nah. It's funny because the dude lost a debate 4-0 but it completely destroyed him and now it's just funny clowining him every now and then.


Didn't know you still post here. Haven't seen you in a long time. Welcome back.

Thanks! Been busy for a while...got the itch to look back at what's going on these days at nsb...

[travestyny]

DUCKY,

1) What happens when you are deydrated severally? You tend to lose lots of fluids!

BUT Floyd weighed in like he usually weighs in at
BUT Floyd then went on to drink lots of fluids
BUT Floyd has walked around at 148 for a decade as oer Floyd's own admission.
BUT against Mosley, Floyd had just done a heavy workout. His final days against Manny, his workouts would be reduced substantially. Floyd even admitted to that in several interviews!!!




2) Floyd said it was "JUST Rehydration". Sorry!

Floyd had to let NSAC know about any medical conditions!!!!


Plus weren't those guys diagnosed after a fight? Didn't they go to the hospital?


Floyd didn't go to the hospital and said in several interviews that his PLAN for the last few days was to RELAX … just some "Shakeout" type activities!!! Similar to a pre-warm up type routine!




3) This is the most dumbest response that you have ever resorted to!
- Read what I said above. It covers most of what crushes what you just said.
- Floyd applauded Dr Ariza for helping him with eating/fluids/hydrating.

Chronic dehydration is mostly for amateurs (excluding elderly people) who do not know how to recoup from a workout! AGAIN, Floyd weighed in at 146. **** ON!!!

Floyd drank constantly!!!! WTF are you QUACKING about!!! That is the opposite of someone who is incorrectly rehydrates! He has a team that makes sure that he doesn't dehydrate! They went as far as to get a freaking ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!



We had more information on Floyd than you would for most people.
- Vitals were good
- Weight normal
- drank constantly
- Weigh-in video … Floyd and his fans said that he looked great!

- Pre-fight form - Floyd didn't report any related medical conditions.

- Interviews: - It was JUST for rehydration.



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You could never crush anything that I've said. If you could, you woudn't have lost the debate 4-0....and the result of the fight would have been reversed a long time ago.


Give up. I'm tired of kicking you around this board.


One simple question destroys you:

An IV masks a urine test result by dilution.

Floyd's sample was tested for dilution by both the DCO and by the independent WADA Lab.


So how did he dilute his sample and pass the two different tests for dilution.

Oh, that's right. You said because there is a problem with the specific gravity test.


Game over, bltch. Your conspiracy theories never made any sense and were destroyed. Get over it.

[travestyny]

I THINK YOU GET THE POINT NOW, DON'T YOU?

The threshold test result indicates that there is synthetic EPO if it exceeds the threshold. If less, the indication is that there is only human EPO.

there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

SO WHOOOO WAS CORRECTED, ADP???? LMAOOOOO! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT BUSTED WITH THE SAME EXACT ARGUMENT AS THE ATHLETE. AND YOU KNOW I CAN PROVE IT!

4-0!!!!!!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740888

When you decide that you want that recount that you offered and bowed down from, do let me know.

Can we now have a recount?

Actually there needs to be some changes ..... like ..... No Mayweather Mafia judges

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REQUEST FOR A RECOUNT GRANTED FOR ALL POINTS AND PERMANENT BAN. IF YOU DARE STEP UP TO THAT RECOUNT OFFER OF YOURS, DO LET ME KNOW, YEA?

I BET YOU DUCK YOUR OWN CHALLENGE ONCE AGAIN, DON'T YOU, ADP02? OF COURSE YOU WILL. AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY IT'S OVER, YOU SLIMY BUTTHURT BET WELCHING LITTLE BlTCH. YOU'RE NOT EVEN A MAN YOU FVVCKING COWARD. SUCK A DlCK AND DIE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ALL YOU'RE GOOD AT. MAKING ALL TYPES OF ****** CHALLENGES AND WHEN I ACCEPT YOU TUCK YOUR TAIL AND SCURRY OFF. YOU ****LESS COWARD. I'M HAPPY I TURNED YOU INTO A PATHETIC TROLL. GO CHECK YOUR ASS INTO RECOVERY, BlTCH!

[CENTER]

READY FOR THAT PERMANENT BAN RECOUNT THAT YOU ASKED FOR???

OR CRY FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS UNIL YOU CHOKE AND DIE. IT'S OVER!

[Laszlo]

Damn why mayweather, and I just seen Victor Conte explain why cheaters perfer the wada/usada testing too and sounded like he was describing mawyeather to a T (if thats the saying) but he wasnt even speaking about anyone in particualr was just explaining why a cheater would choose wada/usada testing over vada.

Did floyd take steroids?

[ADP02]

There are clear explanations.

1. Because athletes get dehydrated. Go check out the 24/7 regarding the Mosley fight and see where Mayweather was dehydrated.

2. Because maybe it wasn't so related to his weight.
check out what happened to Stiverne when he was dehydrated or Dos Santos story, who had the same condition that causes dehydration.

3. Could it be chronic dehydration dependent more on his natural walking around rate.


No one would know without the medical records. But the point is that an IV masks a urine test via dilution. Not only was a DCO present who took a sample before and after the IV, but also the DCO is required to check the sample for dilution, and then the sample is sent to the independent lab with no identification, and then checked for dilution once again.

DUCKY,

1) What happens when you are deydrated severally? You tend to lose lots of fluids!

BUT Floyd weighed in like he usually weighs in at
BUT Floyd then went on to drink lots of fluids
BUT Floyd has walked around at 148 for a decade as oer Floyd's own admission.
BUT against Mosley, Floyd had just done a heavy workout. His final days against Manny, his workouts would be reduced substantially. Floyd even admitted to that in several interviews!!!




2) Floyd said it was "JUST Rehydration". Sorry!

Floyd had to let NSAC know about any medical conditions!!!!


Plus weren't those guys diagnosed after a fight? Didn't they go to the hospital?


Floyd didn't go to the hospital and said in several interviews that his PLAN for the last few days was to RELAX … just some "Shakeout" type activities!!! Similar to a pre-warm up type routine!




3) This is the most dumbest response that you have ever resorted to!
- Read what I said above. It covers most of what crushes what you just said.
- Floyd applauded Dr Ariza for helping him with eating/fluids/hydrating.

Chronic dehydration is mostly for amateurs (excluding elderly people) who do not know how to recoup from a workout! AGAIN, Floyd weighed in at 146. **** ON!!!

Floyd drank constantly!!!! WTF are you QUACKING about!!! That is the opposite of someone who is incorrectly rehydrates! He has a team that makes sure that he doesn't dehydrate! They went as far as to get a freaking ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!



We had more information on Floyd than you would for most people.
- Vitals were good
- Weight normal
- drank constantly
- Weigh-in video … Floyd and his fans said that he looked great!

- Pre-fight form - Floyd didn't report any related medical conditions.

- Interviews: - It was JUST for rehydration.



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[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Damn why mayweather, and I just seen Victor Conte explain why cheaters perfer the wada/usada testing too and sounded like he was describing mawyeather to a T (if thats the saying) but he wasnt even speaking about anyone in particualr was just explaining why a cheater would choose wada/usada testing over vada.

[CHOWWOKKA]

Are you two still doing this 😂