NSAC v. USADA
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One of the interesting angles to this TUE story is that the UFC just paid USADA millions of dollars to do their testing, and they announced (and then delayed) a ban on IV's without a TUE.
But, seeing as how USADA is so willing to give out TUE's, that even the NSAC disagrees with, it raises questions as to how much is actually being accomplished with these rules.
UFC hires USADA to employ 'best anti-doping policy in sports'
Foremost among the announcements was the news that the UFC not only hired USADA at a cost of several million dollars per year, but turned the program entirely over to the agency.http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/1/...tting-mma-newsThe UFC has literally removed themselves from the material operation of the policy, Tygart said. Questions about who is tested, when theyre tested, what theyre tested for, its a year-round testing program [with] blood, urine, athlete biological passport, with CIR analysis, EPO analysis, human growth hormone analysis. Theyre all with us as an independent anti-doping organization.
USADA policy likely bans IVs for rehydrating, UFC fighters not happy
So, those are what most people consider the drugs, the performance enhancing drugs, but it's also the prohibited substance and methods. And there are certain methods, like an IV infusion that you just mentioned, or gene doping or autologous or ****logous blood transfusion, where you take someone else's blood in advance of a bout and it gives you oxygen carrying capacity and recovery capacity and all sorts of benefits. It would be, by the way, game changing benefits.
So, the IVs are allowed under certain circumstances under the WADA prohibited list. You know, if you're in the hospital, clinic, having surgery. If you need it outside of those, you have to apply for a TUE. It's not, as you just indicated, not prohibited in most, or any that we're aware of, licensing commissions. So, there's going to be some education, obviously, around that. The purpose for it was to ensure... And you may... I don't know how closely you've followed our investigation into cycling, but you saw it used a lot in cycling. Because, putting a bag of saline over 50 ml, for example is the rule, would potentially mask or alter the blood testing that was done. And there were examples in there where athletes would put a bag of saline in their arm when they saw the blood collectors coming to collect their blood. And they just delayed reporting for 15 min. So, that was really the purpose behind the rule.Long story short, unless there's a medical emergency a fighter can't use an IV over 50 ml (about the size of a liquor sample bottle) without a TUE, something that more rigorous athletic commissions only tend to give out to people with medical necessities.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/1/...tting-mma-news
USADA pushes back IV ban for UFC fighters until October
UFC fighters can breathe a sigh of relief. A small one anyway, as it looks like the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) won't be imposing an immediate ban on the use of IVs for post weigh-in re-hydration.
Brett Okamoto @bokamotoESPN
Per USADA's Travis Tygart, UFC athletes will be allowed use of IVs over 50ml post weigh-in UNTIL 10/1. Grace period with new policy.Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 09-11-2015, 01:03 PM.Comment
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USADA tests but will not stop events from going on, thus protecting the money to be made.
This is similar to Carl lewis back when Ben Johnson got caught, the US testing agency allowed some shady stuff behind the scenes to keep Carl eligible.
As I read this I think down the road USADA is not going to be able to keep "its day job" with boxing and UFC.Comment
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Nothing wrong with an IV if done under medical supervision at a doctors office/hospital with a commission rep present, at 50 ml with the proper exemption.
The problem here is Floyd was getting an IV behind USADA and NSAC's back, at super high levels. USADA rep went to Floyds house and found the IV, instead of punishing Floyd and going to the commission they decided to give him an exemption. See how shady that is? Floyd was doing this without asking so he was basically cheating.
Its highly likely Floyd was using an IV more than once through camp to possibly flush his system. He just got caught by a USADA rep after the weigh ins. and to cover up for it they decided to give him an exemption when they have no jurisdiction their duty is to report to the NSAC about this they didn't.
USADA = corrupt. Oh its okay Floyd well just say you requested an IV, we got your back didnt mean to catch you man.Comment
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It is just too much going on when it comes to testing. Too many people involved and nobody willing to take blame with miscommunication like this happens.
I don't know who has the Power here, if NSAC can banned the use of USADA as drug tester in their state.
NSAC should have taken control of Drug Testing and offered more stricter drug testing themselves instead of allowing USADA and VADA to come into a already corrupted sport and make things even more confusing.
They're all in this for the money and they all can be bought! I don't trust NSAC, USADA, VADA or any of them, I think for the right amount of money they all will turn a blind eye and let you do what ever you want just as long as they get their cut.Last edited by sicko; 09-11-2015, 01:36 PM.Comment
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It is said that Pacquiao was tested more than 12 times by USADA in the May fight. We could assume that Floyd was tested the same number of times. Question is did Floyd use masking agents on those tests, too? If not, and the results were negative, does this mean he use PEDs only a few days before the fight and required him to mask them a few hours after the weigh in?
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Just remember: during the initial negotiations when NSAC was first called out about its testing, the Kizer NSAC doubled down on its 'our-testing-is-sufficient' stance.It is just too much going on when it comes to testing. Too many people involved and nobody willing to take blame with miscommunication like this happens.
I don't know who has the Power here, if NSAC can banned the use of USADA as drug tester in their state.
NSAC should have taken control of Drug Testing and offered more stricter drug testing themselves instead of allowing USADA and VADA to come into a already corrupted sport and make things even more confusing.
They're all in this for the money and they all can be bought! I don't trust NSAC, USADA, VADA or any of them, I think for the right amount of money they all will turn a blind eye and let you do what ever you want just as long as they get their cut.
And there were a TON of folks in boxing media and on boxing forums loudly and repeatedly DEFENDING that stance. Times sure have changed, haven't they?
NSAC is reaping what it sowed.Comment


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