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Originally posted by Luilun View PostChange to no contest take a way the win so that the record books will show Floyd cheated and will never be TBE that punishment might make him committ suicide
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Originally posted by sargo View PostNah.
This is bigger than the Mayweather Pacquiao rivalry and it's exactly your intention to make it appear that it is simply just that. Mayweather is a cheat. In a sport where participants hurt each other. And the body that is supposed to make sure that fair play happens appears to be either incompetent or corrupt. Quit trying to diminish the significance of this.
without question the waiver 18 days later and the amount of IV raise questions and make Floyd look like he may have cheated. USADA released a statement, Iole questioned the accuracy of Hauser's article. Mayo is detailing events as well. There is evidence that nothing illegal was done despite the fact Floyd's actions make him look guilty.
So here I am, we can discuss whatever you wish. But we both know you still haven't come to grips with your boy getting beat May 2nd.
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Originally posted by Thaman2x View PostLMAO...so I needed to be a member of this forum to know what's been going on? PLEASE. I left from BLH back in March after they had become...how should I say, blatantly TR/Pacquiao Biased.
I am a boxing Fan, first and foremost. Which means, I watch ALL fights, regardless of cost and participation. What are you?
Additionally, your sarcasm and previous posts alone indicate you have a sense of BIAS...foh.
If you are a true boxing fan you would be outraged by this recent revelation by Hauser and not talk about how competitive the bout was. It should not matter that there are haters and casual fans, basically just discrediting those with opinions opposite yours. A true boxing fan would care about the integrity of the sport and feel negatively about fighters acting bigger than the sport you are a true fan of and basically disrespecting it. You are a Floyd fan.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostI am not trying to diminish anything. You and others are going HAM for just the reasons I posted.
without question the waiver 18 days later and the amount of IV raise questions and make Floyd look like he may have cheated. USADA released a statement, Iole questioned the accuracy of Hauser's article. Mayo is detailing events as well. There is evidence that nothing illegal was done despite the fact Floyd's actions make him look guilty.
So here I am, we can discuss whatever you wish. But we both know you still haven't come to grips with your boy getting beat May 2nd.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostYou are full of it.
If you are a true boxing fan you would be outraged by this recent revelation by Hauser and not talk about how competitive the bout was. It should not matter that there are haters and casual fans, basically just discrediting those with opinions opposite yours. A true boxing fan would care about the integrity of the sport and feel negatively about fighters acting bigger than the sport you are a true fan of and basically disrespecting it. You are a Floyd fan.
would a true boxing fan point out that Hauser works for HBO and a TR funded website,2 en****** that are in direct competition with Floyd and have a vested interest in attacking his character and hurting his ability to sell?
Floyd's actions are his doing and absolutely should be questioned. Please spare us the "true fan of the sport " BS. You are just as much a Manny fan as you suggest he is a Floyd fan.
you look at only the information that supports your beliefs while avoiding anything else. don't get mad if a Floyd fan does the same.
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I guess where I'm hung up is I don't see how the NSAC will have any legal recourse regardless of how sketchy this is. The USADA is required to inform them of any violations of WADA, and USADA is insistent that none occurred. Likewise, the use of IVs for "rehydration" purposes is allowed by the NSAC. So if Floyd wasn't in violation of any of their codes or bylaws, what can they do? NSAC is bound by their own codification and WADA is a standards setting organization whose guidelines are merely being borrowed by pro boxing.
If NSAC were doing the OSDT like they did for Pac-Bradley II (iirc), then they would be in charge of enforcing WADA protocols. In this instance USADA are the ones who were supposed to be enforcing WADA protocol. I don't see how NSAC would have any legal authority to issue a punishment when they aren't the ones charged with enforcing that standard of testing unless USADA reported a violation to them (which USADA is insistent that no violations occurred).Last edited by DeadLikeMe; 09-11-2015, 08:48 AM.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostSee? You can't let go of the idea that Pac fans are just sore, blah, blah, blah. It is not about that anymore. Mayweather has done something that drug cheaters do. Quit bringing it back to the Pacquiao rivalry. If that really isn't your intention.
You are not part of that group.
If you think this is bigger than boxing, I don't think so but you could be right. Is Floyd a hypocrite, absolutely. Yes, Floyd used an IV with 750 ml of saline and vitamin c, something drug user and non drug users have done.
With respect to the issue-Floyd's actions make him look guilty. With respect to you-get over May 2nd and be what you call a "true" boxing fan.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostYou are full of it.
If you are a true boxing fan you would be outraged by this recent revelation by Hauser and not talk about how competitive the bout was. It should not matter that there are haters and casual fans, basically just discrediting those with opinions opposite yours. A true boxing fan would care about the integrity of the sport and feel negatively about fighters acting bigger than the sport you are a true fan of and basically disrespecting it. You are a Floyd fan.
I admit im a mayweather fan but i mean come on people the same people that gave manny the benefit of the doubt even tho roach pretty much said he thinks manny had ped in those shakes are same ones assuming everything in this. i mean if all floyd did was rehydrat himself with an iv which is actually highly likely considering they took a test right before and right after the iv are u guys honestly going to be mad about that? i mean seriously i understand hes most hated athlete probably ever and its so obvious hauser is looking for blood but seriously your going to be mad that floyd took a ****ing iv to hydrate?
Maybe you guys think he used it to cover up ped or at least thats what you want to believe but if thats the case the facts will come out with the drug tests. Now if it turns out he used ped ill be first one to bash him i can promise you that but im not going to assume because a fighter took an iv to hydrate that automatically means he took ped imo thats a pretty dam big reach and if that were the case would he contact the usada before he did the iv? i highly highly doubt it but maybe thats cause im a fan
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostI guess where I'm hung up is I don't see how the NSAC will have any legal recourse regardless of how sketchy this is. The USADA is required to inform them of any violations of WADA, and USADA is insistent that none occurred. Likewise, the use of IVs for "rehydration" purposes is allowed by the NSAC. So if Floyd wasn't in violation of any of their codes or bylaws, what can they do? NSAC is bound by their own codification and WADA is a standards setting organization whose guidelines are merely being borrowed by pro boxing.
If NSAC were doing the OSDT like they did for Pac-Bradley II (iirc), then they would be in charge of enforcing WADA protocols. In this instance USADA are the ones who were supposed to be enforcing WADA protocol. I don't see how NSAC would have any legal authority to issue a punishment when they aren't the ones charged with enforcing that standard of testing unless USADA reported a violation to them (which USADA is insistent that no violations occurred).
The amount of IV is high. He did it at home. The waiver came 18 days late (although that isn't on him that's NSAC/USADA).
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