Comments Thread For: Hauser Hits Back at USADA Over Mayweather/IV Scandal

[SplitSecond]

This whole "retroactive approval" bullsh8t is very suspect.

Even more su****ious is why, if USDA knew/suspected that IV had been used after the weigh-in, was this not reported to NSAC immediately?

I wonder if a normal TUE takes 18 days to file.

[b00g13man]

That's their general policy on Tue, but clearly its more stringent on IV rehydration since the fcuking bolded the requirement for prior TUE approval. Just read the fcuking link you posted, couldn't be more clear. You need rehydrating, drink some liquids. You need to flush drugs out of your system, you go IV

I've read it, and comprehended it. You clearly haven't. A "retroactive" TUE is valid from a date/time in the past, making it all above board from the USADA point of view.

You can argue about whether or not retroactive TUEs should ever be in place, but that's a different story. They do exist, and one was applied in this scenario. That's all there is to it.

[Mitchell Kane]

There was like one peep of this news and haven't heard of it since. Can't even find it. Link?

Should probably separate out the two things here...1) NSAC being notified of the treatment and 2) NSAC being notified of the TUE.

NSAC chairman Francisco Aguilar said he was the first commission member notified by USADA of the IV treatment, and it came three days after the fight.

Aguilar said he was the first commission member notified by USADA of Mayweather's IV treatment, and it didn't come until three days after Mayweather defeated Pacquiao by unanimous decision.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...910-story.html

[ganthet]

I've read it, and comprehended it. You clearly haven't. A "retroactive" TUE is valid from a date/time in the past, making it all above board from the USADA point of view.

A retroactive TUE will only have validity once it is approved. Else, every other fighter will take illegal crap the day before the fight and then apply for TUE and go on with the fight.

So what will happen then if a fighters retroactive TUE application doesn't get approved after the fight? Answer that genius. There will be all kinds of sh!!!t all over the place. That is why the retroactive TUE must be approved first before a fighter can take or infuse whatever crap he wants Captain Retroactive

[b00g13man]

I wonder if a normal TUE takes 18 days to file.

Looks like they need to be made 21 or 28 days in advance depending on whether or not you're a national or international level athlete. I'd assume they'd get approved at least a few days before those deadlines are up.

3) Policy for International-Level Athletes
International-Level Athletes should submit new or renewal TUE applications to their International Federation for processing. USADA will assist International-Level Athletes in the USADA Registered Testing Pool by forwarding applications for TUEs if such requests for USADA assistance are made at least twenty-eight (28) days in advance of the Athlete’s Use of the medication where prohibited in sport. USADA will make best efforts to expedite TUE requests made less than twenty-eight (28) days in advance of the Athlete’s intended Use, but can make no guarantees as to the responsiveness of the International Federation to such applications.

Where an Athlete already has a TUE granted by USADA for the substance or method in question, if that TUE meets the ISTUE criteria, then the International Federation must recognize it or promptly advise USADA and the Athlete of its reasons for refusing to recognize the TUE. Source: Code, Article 4.4.3.1.

4) Policy for National-Level Athletes
USADA will process TUE applications for National-Level Athletes in accordance with the ISTUE.

A National-Level Athlete may apply to USADA for a TUE for any Prohibited Substance at any time; however, such applications must be complete and received by USADA at least twenty-one (21) days in advance of any Use prohibited in sport. USADA will make best efforts to expedite TUE requests made less than twenty-one (21) days in advance of the Athlete’s intended Use based on exceptional circumstances, but makes no guarantees regarding the processing of TUE applications under that timeframe.

[b00g13man]

LOL are Froid **** riders really this dense? A retroactive TUE will only have validity once it is approved. Else, every other fighter will take crap the day before the fight and then apply for TUE and go on with the fight.

So what will happen then if a retroactive TUE doesn't get approved after the fight? Answer that genius. There will be all kinds of sh!!!t all over the place. That is why the retroactive TUE must be approved first Captain Retroactive

Christ!!! You can't be this dense surely. That's the bloody point of it being retroactive. It's approved after the fact, but ends up taking effect before.

[ganthet]

Christ!!! You can't be this dense surely. That's the bloody point of it being retroactive. It's approved after the fact, but ends up taking effect before.

LMAO I really can't believe your still holding on to that one word "retroactive" eventhough USADAs own site states that a retroactive TUE must be both applied for and granted before it can be valid.

USADA didn't say in their site that a fighter can have the infusion even if a retroactive TUE still wasn't granted did they?

USADA also didn't say in their website that a TUE can still be granted 3-18 days after the fight did they?

So again, answer me this, if we go by your logic that a fighter can take an infusion or any illegal crap without prior approval of the TUE, then what happens then if a fighter gets denied of his TUE application 3-18 days after the fight? Does that sound logical to you? Do you even realize the implications and ramifications if this was the case? Do you now realize the absurdity of your argument and interpretation of what was already clearly written and stated on USADAs own website?

[HeroBando]

I've read it, and comprehended it. You clearly haven't. A "retroactive" TUE is valid from a date/time in the past, making it all above board from the USADA point of view.

You can argue about whether or not retroactive TUEs should ever be in place, but that's a different story. They do exist, and one was applied in this scenario. That's all there is to it.

Gotcha, now you're trying to redefine "prior". Won't work, everybody knows what it means. It's too late anyway, the mainstream found out Floyd is a PED user and moved on.

[SplitSecond]

Looks like they need to be made 21 or 28 days in advance depending on whether or not you're a national or international level athlete. I'd assume they'd get approved at least a few days before those deadlines are up.

Thanks. Seems they granted Floyd his TUE alot quicker, took about 1 day after he filed it.

[b00g13man]

Gotcha, now you're trying to redefine "prior". Won't work, everybody knows what it means. It's too late anyway, the mainstream found out Floyd is a PED user and moved on.

Lol. Not my fault you don't understand the meaning of a fairly common word. Also, the mainstream media don't care, probably because they've realised it's a non-story. There's a reason they aren't still talking about it. Even boxing writers aren't.

Sorry to disappoint you, but his legacy is intact.