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  • Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
    and is illegal if not for the shady TUE allowed by the contract that the NSAC is acknowledging shouldn't be allowed going forward.

    So basically Floyd did something wrong and got off because of a loophole(that the NSAC could probably overturn, because I doubt USADA's authority here is bulletproof.....but somehow I doubt NSAC will go too hard on this, unless they're forced).

    And by the way, If Pacquiao allows this without raising concerns, it;s because he's dirty too(which we already know, overrated cheaters, both).
    Floyd put in the paperwork for the TUE after the weigh-in, he was granted permission and tested before the IV and after...he passed. Floyd didn't create a loophole and he did what other fighters have done and still were doing at the time. USADA gave him the OK and turned in the paperwork to NSAC at a later date. That's on USADA, not Mayweather. Also a fighter still can apply for a TUE to this day and be granted permission.

    In accordance with the WADA Prohibited List (Category M2 Chemical and Physical Manipulation), all IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6-hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL per 6-hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition unless the athlete has applied for and been granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under the applicable anti-doping rules.

    Tygart on MMA Hour: So, the IVs are allowed under certain circumstances under the WADA prohibited list. You know, if you're in the hospital, clinic, having surgery. If you need it outside of those, you have to apply for a TUE. It's not, as you just indicated, not prohibited in most, or any that we're aware of, licensing commissions.

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    • I really don't want to participate in the re-ignition of Pac-Floyd, but this is hella fishy

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      • Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
        The first paragraph is so naive i won't even bother...And the bit about the cycling of PED use is more deflection of a clear wrong. Lawyering as always.

        The second paragraph is why it's important for this issues to come to light. Public pressure will lead to a conversation that hopefully gets us a better regulation of PED use.
        Yes, it's naive enough you can't even make a defense. Instead you cop a plea and claim 'lawyering.'

        Public pressure is not going to change anything. Random drug testing isn't being implemented today because of the public. But because of the athletes themselves who had pockets to voluntarily pay for it.

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        • Originally posted by Calabis View Post
          Floyd put in the paperwork for the TUE after the weigh-in, he was granted permission and tested before the IV and after...he passed. Floyd didn't create a loophole and he did what other fighters have done and still were doing at the time. USADA gave him the OK and turned in the paperwork to NSAC at a later date. That's on USADA, not Mayweather. Also a fighter still can apply for a TUE to this day and be granted permission.

          In accordance with the WADA Prohibited List (Category M2 Chemical and Physical Manipulation), all IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6-hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL per 6-hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition unless the athlete has applied for and been granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under the applicable anti-doping rules.

          Tygart on MMA Hour: So, the IVs are allowed under certain circumstances under the WADA prohibited list. You know, if you're in the hospital, clinic, having surgery. If you need it outside of those, you have to apply for a TUE. It's not, as you just indicated, not prohibited in most, or any that we're aware of, licensing commissions.
          What was the IV for? Did they have to specify on the paperwork? Was it just dehydration? Why wouldn't every fighter just do this to rehydrate after cutting weight? Seems like a no brainer to me. Except every other fighter would get turned down most likely where Floyd got the TUE.. Money talks....

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Floyd was tested by way of urine before and after taking that "substance". What a joke!
            Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            He was also tested by blood on that same day.
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            No. Blood test was done after the fight.
            Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            Incorrect. They took both blood and urine from both Pacquiao and Mayweather.
            You are deflecting or lost track about the posts.

            Urine testing was said to be done just before and after Floyd took that substance. Blood testing was done only after the fight not just before Floyd took that substance. That is the key because if the substance was used to mask what Floyd was on, then USADA made a huge mistake. That is kinda weird with the experience they had with Lance Armstrong, as an example, who used to do just that. Mask with a saline type substance.

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            • Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
              It's not according to me, it's according to a well respected boxing writer. I'm just like you, a guy reading stories on the Internet. Except I'm smart enough to know where's there's smoke, there's fire. You're gullible enough to believe the guy is clean then good for you. Keep the dream alive.
              So one guy writes a article with unconfirmed sources and rumor and its smoke/fire. Yet major news sources like ESPN who would love to break a story like this is just like...oh who cares....what a joke. Mayweather is the most hated athlete in the world, yet not one credible news source is on record with this story except this cornball writer. Only this guy knows...yeah ok.

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              • Bob Bennett (who worked for the FBI before assuming his present position as executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission) has this to say: "The TUE for Mayweather's IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I've made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did.

                Yep nothing to question here...Floyd wasn't the beneficary of any wrong doing, no sir.

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                • Steroids are cycled anyway...you'd have to be an idiot to be using during testing time....guys who get caught are the biggest idiots out there. They could cycle on and off with no issues and never get caught with proper instruction.

                  Until year round random testing is implemented, and it never will be, everyone could use to their hearts desire and never get caught if smart.

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                  • Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                    What was the IV for? Did they have to specify on the paperwork? Was it just dehydration? Why wouldn't every fighter just do this to rehydrate after cutting weight? Seems like a no brainer to me. Except every other fighter would get turned down most likely where Floyd got the TUE.. Money talks....
                    Exactly.

                    Also, Floyd and his fans keep on saying that Floyd can even make 140 and/or is a small WW. Yet, Floyd now needs to take this IV? Something just does not add up.

                    He always comes in close to weight during the check points prior to the official weigh in. So why did they even think (pre-meditated) about taking this IV?





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                    Last edited by ADP02; 09-09-2015, 08:01 PM.

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                    • fraud jr is a disgrace to the sport of boxing!all he does is run, hug while pumped up with all the peds money can buy.

                      fuck fraud jr!

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