McDonnell vs. Kameda- ex. of how commentary can influence the audience

[juandabomb]

similar to Pacquiao Bradley 1

[boliodogs]

I hear the comments but I never let it influence my scoring of the fight. I watch fights closely and score fights round by round. I agreed with Hunter. While McDonnell came forward all fight I thought Kameda landed more punches and cleaner, harder punches in most of the rounds. I had Kameda winning by 4 points so I respectfully disagree with your scoring and the official scoring. If the punch count is correct it shows Kameda landing more punches. I am not saying the punch count is always accurate. I just don't see any reason the fight callers or punch counters would show favoritism toward one fighter or the other. I think they called the fight the way they saw it and counted the punches to the best of their ability. I agree with them. I thought Kameda clearly won with room to spare.

[boliodogs]

Only if you don't know **** about boxing it does.

While I thought Kameda won I also kept posting "He Is Not Doing Enough To Take It From The Champ" also posted that I did not like how Kameda was finishing that fight and then he got knocked down in the 12th.

Might be time to look into a new Trainer, someone that knows what to do with his Natural Talent and Skills. Thought he looked better in the first half of the first fight than he did this fight. Once again he looked sharp early but then McDonnell relentless pressure got to him an he started landing more and more

Not going to scream "ROBBERY" For Kameda here, you have to Take It From The Champion and I don't think he did that especially with him getting dropped in the 12 which was no question a Knockdown but CBS was trying to butter it up and talk about how he was off balance

I think fans just don't understand what they're watch and how to score a boxing match. It is not about "WHO YOU LIKE" if you can't be Partial then you have no business trying to score a fight

I don't agree that you have to take it from the champ. That is something some people say but you won't find it in any fight scoring instruction. The only benefit the champ is supposed to get is they keep their title on a draw. A round is supposed to go to the fighter who won the round even if they just barely won the round. It doesn't matter if they are the champion or not. You don't have to win the round big to get the round from the champion. You only have to win the round. Pascal said when he fought Hopkins that the champion is supposed to win all the close rounds. Pascal was wrong. A round is supposed to go to the guy who won the round, however slightly, and who is champion should have nothing to do with who won a round.

[soul_survivor]

Paulie and Hunter, who are usually great at their job, did this fight disservice. It was a good fight but they paid all their attention to Kameda, who was getting hit with jabs the entire fight, had no answer for the jab, who was getting pushed back the entire fight and who got out worked by McDonnell.

Because of their commentary we're hearing how Kameda got robbed?

Meanwhile I switched back to the PBS commentary and these guys had McDonnell comfortably ahead I think they had it like 116-111 for McDonnell. So clearly they were watching the same fight the judges were watching and Paulie and Hunter were watching something totally different.

For the record I had a similar score to one of the judges 115-112. It was tough to score because Paulie and Hunter tried to convince me that Kameda won rounds that he didn't deserve. I thought the fight was closer than the other two had it, but the right man won the fight.

Ask yourself, did the commentary influence you?

I watched the Sky broadcast and we had the PBS commentary which was very pro McDonell, even in the first 4 rounds, which for me, could have been all even. I didn't really score the fight and I had McDonnell winning comfortably but nowhere near the margins of the PBS guys. At one stage, one of them had it 8-1 in terms of rounds for McDonnell.

However you see it, you can't see it for Kameda. The Jap got beaten on all accounts.