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  • soul_survivor
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    Treat Hearn like Haymon

    Since the start of PBC on US television, Haymon has received a lot of flak from boxing fans for mostly putting on one sided, lackluster fights (apart from a few good ones). Shouldn't the same be said for Eddie Hearn? Surely he is even worse than Haymon, considering he has an exclusive contract with Sky and people have to specifically subscribe to SkySports and all those subscribers get are boring, one sided fights or so called "domestic rivalries" with little consequence.

    Even the whiff of a competitive fight gets put onto PPV and the Brook/Gavin and Cleverly/Bellew PPVs have probably been the worst PPVs all year, here or in the US.

    Promoters in Germany are doing it right, garnering millions in profits with good fights on national tv.

    So why isn't Hearn faced with the same backlash as Haymon?
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    #2
    as a non-brit i barely even know who he is

    but i'm in down with hearn

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    • soul_survivor
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      #3
      Originally posted by Cruisin'
      as a non-brit i barely even know who he is

      but i'm in down with hearn
      He has promoted some big Froch fights over the last 3 years, now has Brook, DeGale, AJ and a whole host of important Brit names who are world title holders or challengers, you must have heard of him if you're a boxing fan.

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      • English Lion
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        Since the Groves Froch II fight, Eddie Hean has gone down hill. He had huge momentum after staging the most popular fight in British history and he's not done anything since then. Weak cards, putting fights like Bellew Cleverly, Brook v Gavin as PPV events. He's losing the plot recently. Not securing Khan for Brook or any other elite welterweight for that matter, Not securing Groves for DeGale, Frampton for Quigg. Those fights were not secured due to Hearn always running his big mouth in the media and disrespecting fighters who end up saying "**** him".

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        • aldo5408
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          My biggest problem with him is that he is a reason some fights like Frampton quigg degale and groves don't get made. I'dk about the TV network in UK though

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            #6
            hearn and haymon are from the same school of corporate sleaze. they almost make me nostalgic for old school crooks like warren and arum

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              #7
              Originally posted by NEETzsche
              hearn and haymon are from the same school of corporate sleaze. they almost make me nostalgic for old school crooks like warren and arum
              LOL you know what, I kinda agree with that, add King to your list. Whatever the backroom stuff, whatever the problem with fighters being paid/not paid enough, those guys put on some of the biggest and most important fights in history and most of them happened when they needed too.

              Now we have these guys who can't even put on a single fight worth a damn.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                Every promoter is putting on mostly one sided matchups. Sadly the business model in boxing is about building up guys for that "big fight" in the future more than putting competitive matches on on a regular basis.

                I think the top two en****** putting on high quality fights are en****** (HBO & PBC) who freelance out the promotional duties. I don't understand the claim PBC isn't putting out top fights in the first place.

                I suppose if you are considering the big fights in comparison to the number of cards they put on the % is low, but show me any group who's putting on as many cards as PBC does who is able to put on big fights weekly or bi-weekly instead of monthly like PBC is doing along with HBO & no one else that I'm aware of.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  Since the start of PBC on US television, Haymon has received a lot of flak from boxing fans for mostly putting on one sided, lackluster fights (apart from a few good ones). Shouldn't the same be said for Eddie Hearn? Surely he is even worse than Haymon, considering he has an exclusive contract with Sky and people have to specifically subscribe to SkySports and all those subscribers get are boring, one sided fights or so called "domestic rivalries" with little consequence.

                  Even the whiff of a competitive fight gets put onto PPV and the Brook/Gavin and Cleverly/Bellew PPVs have probably been the worst PPVs all year, here or in the US.

                  Promoters in Germany are doing it right, garnering millions in profits with good fights on national tv.

                  So why isn't Hearn faced with the same backlash as Haymon?
                  Haymon only gets the backlash that he's getting because fans, on this site especially but on other sites as well, are nuthuggers for the HBO consortium (Top Rank/Golden Boy/Main Events/WBO) and see the changes that are coming to the sport.

                  Even for the PPVs that you want to disparage, you're willfully forgetting that the shows have been delivering 6 and 7-fight shows for the money requested (with near the full slate of fights having meaning to them).

                  "boxing fans", on both sides of the Atlantic, have actually been enjoying the resurgence of the sport in their home markets, rather than crying about everything.

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by aldo5408
                    My biggest problem with him is that he is a reason some fights like Frampton quigg degale and groves don't get made. I'dk about the TV network in UK though
                    How is Hearn preventing Frampton-Quigg(McGuigan seems to be the main hang up) or Degale-Groves(fight is in the cue if Groves manages to beat Jack 9/12)?

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