Post your P4P Lists

[soul_survivor]

1. Mayweather
2. Gonzalez
3. Klitschko
4. Kovalev
5. Ward
6. Golovkin
7. Lomachenko
8. Rigondeaux
9. Pacquiao
10. Lara

Worth noting that when I usually make these lists I base it on what can you do for me TODAY, not based exclusively on past achievements (although they help grading, of course). So guys like Cotto who have fantastic resumes and are legend don't automatically get a pass, because for whatever reason I don't see them being dominant as of right in this very moment.

Based on your own criteria, explain Lara to me.

Interesting I think many lists are gonna differ big time

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Roman Gonzalez
4. Sergey Kovalev
5. Saul Canelo Alvarez
6. Gennady Golovkin
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Terence Crawford
9. Keith Thurman
10. Erislandy Lara

There, not that bad of a list If I do say so myself.

Most lists have included about the 7 or 8 same names (Floyd, Pac, Kov, GGG, Wlad, Roman etc), so there is some definite consistency. Then there are names like Cotto, Alvarez, Bradley that get added in.

I'm curious, why Thurman?

I go by who would be the odds on favorite on a fight and how skilled a guy is.. Ward is proven world class guy.. Just because he has been inactive doesn't mean he isn't any lesser of a fighter.. Before froch retired he was on some lists, and no way he would have been favored over Ward in a rematch.
But I can see why some people would drop him in rankings due to activity

I understand what you're saying here but we can't be entirely hypothetical, yes Ward is skilled and in 2012, he showed us why he was p4p but now, 3 years late, what has he really shown us? That he goes many rounds with Paul Smith? Is that enough of a gauge to say that he'd be brilliant and beat other guys, especially someone like Kovalev who is his natural rival. Would he even look good against DeGale in 2015?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Based on your own criteria, explain Lara to me.



Most lists have included about the 7 or 8 same names (Floyd, Pac, Kov, GGG, Wlad, Roman etc), so there is some definite consistency. Then there are names like Cotto, Alvarez, Bradley that get added in.

I'm curious, why Thurman?



I understand what you're saying here but we can't be entirely hypothetical, yes Ward is skilled and in 2012, he showed us why he was p4p but now, 3 years late, what has he really shown us? That he goes many rounds with Paul Smith? Is that enough of a gauge to say that he'd be brilliant and beat other guys, especially someone like Kovalev who is his natural rival. Would he even look good against DeGale in 2015?

Ward would be degale

[soul_survivor]

Ward would be degale

You haven't explained anything.

[-Kev-]

1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. Klitschko
4. Rigondeaux
5. Kovalev
6. Crawford
7. Pacquiao
8. Canelo
9. Lomachenko
10. Golovkink

[-Kev-]

Beating Paul Smith Jr definitely gets you ranked this highly.

In his defense, you rank R. Gonzalez pretty high with the rest of the sheeps that are just following Ring and other P4P lists.

Paul Smith is bad, but surely you don't find the pathetic resume of journeymen from 2013 to 2015 of Ronald Barrera, Francisco Rodriguez Jr, Oscar Blanquet, Juan Kantun, Juan Purisima, Akira Yaegashi, Rocky Fuentes, Velntin Leon, and Edgar Sosa impressive do you? Enough to catapult Gonzalez from not ranked in the top 10 at all in 2013 to being ranked #2 in 2015 after that garbage resume?

[SN!PER]

1. Shannon Briggs
2. Ricardo Mayorga
3. that Russian who beat Huck
4. Roy Jones Jr.
5. Anthony Dirrell
6. Tommy Karpency
7. the little dude who punches fast
8. that young Mexican, forgot his name
9. Andre Dirrell
10. the Samoan guy with huge muscles

[Dinamita 03]

Seems like everyone has GGG in the top 10s now, put Wilder in there too while your at it. Some people even have GGG above Crawford, so sad.

Crawford's best win is against a featherweight, who rocked him by the way.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You haven't explained anything.

I meant beat deGale, not be degale

[2shameless]

I'm not sure Ward beating DeGale is an absolute certainty given Andre's level of opposition and activity over the last few years. No clue why that fight isn't being pursued tbh. Two gold medalists, US vs UK, DeGale with just the one disputed loss early in his career.

[_original_]

1. Mayweather
2. Rigo
3. Wlad
4. Kovalev
5. Pacquiao
6. Crawford
7. GGG
8. Gonzalez
9. Uchiyama
10. Walters