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  • bowl
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    #61
    They would destroy him.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #62
      Originally posted by niceguy45
      which the same reason floyd avoided prime Paul Williams...just imagine prime hearns
      2 words....Carlos Quintana


      He also moved up to 154 cant rewrite history to fit an agenda

      Paul Williams was a prospect with 0 wins over a top ten contender...Finally beat one, Margarito july 14, 2007, and lays an egg in his next fight against Carlos Quintana Feb 2008 a lil while after Mayweather beat Hatton. Willaims moved up before years end in 2008.

      Nobody even knew who Williams was....Fighting an undefeated Hatton and winning a title in his 5th divison against the cash cow meant more than fighting a prospect

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        #63
        Originally posted by niceguy45
        which the same reason floyd avoided prime Paul Williams...just imagine prime hearns
        Loooooool. Because Hearns and Paul Williams fought anything alike. Smh.

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        • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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          #64
          i think hearns is the only one who would probably beat Floyd... I think he edges out leonard and hagler but even if these guys beat him none would just flat out dominate him like some posters think.

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            #65
            Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
            i think hearns is the only one who would probably beat Floyd... I think he edges out leonard and hagler but even if these guys beat him none would just flat out dominate him like some posters think.
            Edge out Leonard or Hagler

            He struggled with a shot Oscar name one person on Floyd's resume that's comparable,to these 2 ? Both beat the breaks of Floyd ..The man wouldn't step in the ring with feather fisted Winky Wright I doubt he would even fight either of them ..Well maybe the Leonard that fought Comacho ..He would beat that version .
            Last edited by imperial1; 09-03-2015, 01:52 PM.

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              #66
              All of those guys are much bigger than Floyd so its a moot point.

              It's a lot more fair to compare Floyd to guys 130-140. Duran, Pryor, Whitaker, Arguello, JCC, etc.

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              • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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                #67
                Originally posted by imperial1
                Edge out Leonard or Hagler

                He struggled with a shot Oscar name one person on Floyd's resume that's comparable,to these 2 ? Both beat the breaks of Floyd ..Ghe man wouldntbstep in the ring with feather fisted Winky Wright I doubt he would even fight either of them ..Well maybe the Leonard that fought Comacho ..He would beat that version .
                im sorry I don't see it like you see it but I feel as though he would beat them. they are all great at the end of the day but its just my opinion. it will never be a way to find out. I think they would all be close fights if anything. I don't think people realize how good Floyd is in the ring but im not here to argue that. lol @ the leonard that fought Camacho!!!!!!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                  i think hearns is the only one who would probably beat Floyd... I think he edges out leonard and hagler but even if these guys beat him none would just flat out dominate him like some posters think.
                  You're out of your mind. Hagler had long arms, stamina for days, an iron chin, good power, underrated boxing skill. He was far too big for Floyd.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger
                    I think you need to study a bit more before future comments.....hagler was a middleweight even before he turned pro and actually fought in 1973 and won the national AAU 165 pound title and hagler was 18 years old so how the hell could he have been JM class...what an idiotic thing to say lol...some fighters genetics are built different and hagler was a natural middleweight no matter what era he was in.....solid build with massive legs and shoulders and huge reach......now in the leonard hagler fight it was a close fight...but leonard did do enough to win...hearns was a monster at welterweight.......but when Ray and Tommy squared off in 1981....leonard proved himself the superior fighter out the town of them....why because he took the best hearns punches......had him out in the 6,7,8 and broke him down when it went into the 13th round......so that makes leonard the number 1......floyd would not have beatn either hearns or leonard if they were the 1981 versions....hagler would have embarrassed floyd......floyd was a super feather for Christ sake.....let's not get carried away lol
                    I think you need to study a bit more before future comments.....hagler was a middleweight even before he turned pro and actually fought in 1973 and won the national AAU 165 pound title and hagler was 18 years old so how the hell could he have been JM class...
                    It's called water weight. Hagler was never 170 fight night. 165 I could believe, but cutting 11 pounds of weight to make 154 which largely consists of water is definitely not impossible nor unheard of in today's era. In fact, I'm certain Hagler was around 165 max on fight night.

                    now in the leonard hagler fight it was a close fight...but leonard did do enough to win...
                    To each their own. I could see Hagler winning that fight. Either way, it wasn't a clear cut decision where one fighter definitely won. I wish Leonard had accepted the rematch.

                    hearns was a monster at welterweight.......but when Ray and Tommy squared off in 1981....leonard proved himself the superior fighter out the town of them....why because he took the best hearns punches......had him out in the 6,7,8 and broke him down when it went into the 13th round......so that makes leonard the number 1......
                    If the fight happened today, Hearns would have won. It would have been a 12 round fight, and not a 15 round one. The reason I say Hearns was probably the best welterweight despite the loss, is because he was leading the scorecards before the referee stopped the fight in the 14th round. Not just that, but if you're going to say something like this, I could bring up how Roberto Duran beat Leonard, and Hearns beat Duran (although it was at light middleweight). Either way, A>B>C>A occurred. Where Leonard struggled with Duran, I don't see Hearns doing the same as he did. Or are you going to try to bring up that rematch with Duran that Leonard had, where Duran did not have enough time to prepare and was fat/outshape/lazy prior to the fight?


                    floyd would not have beatn either hearns or leonard if they were the 1981 versions....hagler would have embarrassed floyd......floyd was a super feather for Christ sake.....let's not get carried away lol
                    Yes, I agree. Hearns would have won 100% without a doubt, although Leonard would have had a harder time. Hell, even Duran could give it to Floyd as well potentially.

                    Hagler is an obvious one.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by -Antonio-
                      You're out of your mind. Hagler had long arms, stamina for days, an iron chin, good power, underrated boxing skill. He was far too big for Floyd.
                      He lost to Leonard cuz of fatigue, he probably used to kill himself to make weight.

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