Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Built By Media, Never on My Level

[Mr.Fantastic]

Pac is the greater fighter with the better resume.

[Divine Hammer]

Manny walked away dude. Nothing you can do to change that fact. Stop trying to justify it.

Margs was not worthy of a 154 lb title shot. He got the spot because he worked for TR. who cares if he was a bigger name, foreman was much better at 154.

Yes, he made a good business decision. The fact still remains he had 3 chances to fight Floyd when prime,before he got KTFO by JMM and refused each time. Tells me he was never confident he could beat Floyd (bob surely wasn't) and that's why he waited to fight him.

You can try and justify it however you wish but it doesn't change a thing-he didn't fight Zahir, yuri or Floyd when he was prime when he had the chance to. Maybe he would've won had he taken those risks. But he didn't.

He may have had a better chance to beat Floyd if he had experience against long armed boxers, not just bigger come forward duds like clottey and marg.

His decision. Factor this in just like you do for every other time a fighter avoids an opponent he should face instead of blaming the guy Manny avoided.

- and floyd went into "retirement". even a dying kid's last wish was to see floyd fight manny and floyd looked him in the eyes and said "i'd rather take a vacation for now" hahahahhahahahahahaha give me a break. and floyd offers manny a completely lousy deal. $40 million flat fee may seem like a lot BUT for the biggest money fight of the century it's considered a complete joke robbery. and floyd lied to his fans when he said "yes manny ur next!!!" at the ortiz press conference only to DENY HE SAID IT IN A LATER INTERVIEW!!!! so who was serious about making a fight happen???????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

- and going back to zahir and yuri hahahahahahahaha. again manny wanted to avenge his loss to morales which he did. and a prime 130 marquez is farrrrrr more dangerous and was at the top of the division than 135 zahir who became irrelevant soon after beating morales. also yuri isn't all that (wasn't a big name and was hardly a threat compared to margarito). i mean he got completely ko'ed and embarrassed by a bloated far past prime cotto while a shot one eyed margarito put on a better fight against cotto (2nd time), but keep hyping him. it's not like floyd avoided a prime cotto, prime pac, prime mosley, paul williams, kostya, martinez, khan, GGG, etc. etc.

[FrankieClutch]

I disagree wholeheartedly. No matter how you slice it, these are the #1 and #2 fighters of this generation

[crazy jay]

Manny is great no matter how Floyd want to degrade him. All Money could do was hold, hug and run all night. One cannot deny the video replays of Pacman wining the bout.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

the truth is manny accomplished far more than ur hero and was in far more upset wins, fight of the year wins type fights than ur hero. thanks to manny boxing was reinvigorated in the 2000s while floyd was off in "retirement" somewhere. the 2000s belong TO MANNY.

and 2009 belonged to manny. manny was fighter of the year 2009, according to ring and bwaa. KO'ed hatton cold, and beat up cotto while fraud mayweather dragged up a lightweight up two weightclasses for the first time hahahahahahahahahaha.

U lost the debate, hard luck!

[crazy jay]

[QUOTE=crazy jay;16008260]Manny is great no matter how Floyd want to degrade him. All Money could do was hold, hug and run all night. One cannot deny the video replays of Pacman wining the bout.

[MC Hammer]

they are far more credible than any of these sanctioning bodies. they started handing out these belts as alternative to the corruption of these sanctioning bodies. the ring belt is still considered MORE PRESTIGIOUS than any of these other alphabet belts and u know it!!!!

ring belt >>>>> everything else

manny is the first 4 weight lineal champ and 7-8 weight world champion. deal with it punk.

And he still lost to Floyd, and was never on his level. You deal with that.

[Bronx2245]

In reality Floyd may weather is the greatest media phenom and hype job.

Well you never fought him when he was a beast. Hid behind steroid accusations, went on vacation when they agreed to drug testing, blamed bob arum, waited for him to get knocked out, then got exposed when you did business with arum, went to manny hotel after talking trash for years praising him, using psychological tactics that work on the born again pacman like saying we both have families we don't have to hurt each other to give the fans a great show, and all I have is boxing you have losses and people still love you, etc.

one thing you gotta give Floyd credit for and his dumb fans think you are dissing him, but live in denial is he knows how to pick fighters and at the right time so he can't lose, he also loves to project. It's why he is never going to lose he was able to have so much power to pick and choose and manipulate so he can make the most money while brainwashing suckers to call him the best ever, classic con man, and he still couldn't whoop pacquiao impressively, i expected Floyd to outdo Marquez, all the Floyd fans said pac will be hit all night and it will be a gate situation.

Floyd "hid behind steroid accustions?" All Manny had to do was agree to a 14-day cutoff, and the fight would've happened! Even Freddie Roach admitted that the failed negotiations were "their" fault, and not Floyd! This is a clear example of a fan trying to change history! Then, when JMM knocks Manny out cold, they have the nerve to accuse JMM of steroids as an excuse! HYPOCRITES!!!

[The Big Dunn]

- and floyd went into "retirement". even a dying kid's last wish was to see floyd fight manny and floyd looked him in the eyes and said "i'd rather take a vacation for now" hahahahhahahahahahaha give me a break. and floyd offers manny a completely lousy deal. $40 million flat fee may seem like a lot BUT for the biggest money fight of the century it's considered a complete joke robbery. and floyd lied to his fans when he said "yes manny ur next!!!" at the ortiz press conference only to DENY HE SAID IT IN A LATER INTERVIEW!!!! so who was serious about making a fight happen???????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

- and going back to zahir and yuri hahahahahahahaha. again manny wanted to avenge his loss to morales which he did. and a prime 130 marquez is farrrrrr more dangerous and was at the top of the division than 135 zahir who became irrelevant soon after beating morales. also yuri isn't all that (wasn't a big name and was hardly a threat compared to margarito). i mean he got completely ko'ed and embarrassed by a bloated far past prime cotto while a shot one eyed margarito put on a better fight against cotto (2nd time), but keep hyping him. it's not like floyd avoided a prime cotto, prime pac, prime mosley, paul williams, kostya, martinez, khan, GGG, etc. etc.

Manny had chances to fight Floyd before he got KTFO by JMM. You are admitting it and are trying to deflect at the same time. LMFAO!! If Manny being past it or affected by the KO made him lose to Floyd, that is on Manny because he made the decision to wait.

If they were so easy to beat, Manny would've fought either. Instead, he avoided both. Then, when he finally fought Floyd, he was clueless because the only fighter he fought that boxed from the outside with a long reach he really fought was ALgieiri, a bum of the highest order.

If Manny made different choices he'd have fought Floyd in his prime, before the KO. Nothing you say changes this fact.

[crazy jay]

pac was never on Floyd level he was managed well and took opponents when they were at a down fall

Hehehe what a laugh Pacman was not on Floyds level of holding, hugging and running. Manny is a champion who prefers to stands and trade punches like a man and he doesn't hold, hug and run