how come ppl dont pull a rocky on mayweather and start hitting shoulders

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  • ferocity
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    #21
    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
    Sure he felt the body shots, he's not a machine.

    But the fact remains the body shots had little or no effect on the outcome of the fight. If the body punches don't break him down....there is absolutely no sense in throwing them.

    They generally don't earn the respect from the judges in comparison to hard shots on the chin. I still say that's where JLC ****ed up in those fights.

    And saying he "****ed up" is a ridiculous statement, but he did in fact lose the fights on the judges scorecards.
    I totally disaggree. Its not like that is the only thing a fighter should do against him, im saying add that attack against him. Do what you are doing but add a arm, attack. Its all about breaking him down with a steady attack.

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    • DiegoFuego
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      #22
      Guess you haven't seen the fights against Castillo, Chavez, or Augustus. All they hit was shoulders against Floyd. Guess those are scored higher than a headshot by some people who had those fights close.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ferocity
        I totally disaggree. Its not like that is the only thing a fighter should do against him, im saying add that attack against him. Do what you are doing but add a arm, attack. Its all about breaking him down with a steady attack.
        I'm certain you've seen his fight with Augustus.

        that's virtually all Emmanuel did....was try the exact tactic you are describing. He let his hands go on his shoulders, body, hell everywhere he could.

        Floyd shook all the punches off and they had little or no effect on him as the fight progressed.

        And augustus is not featherfisted in my opinion.



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        • ferocity
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          #24
          Originally posted by DiegoFuego
          Guess you haven't seen the fights against Castillo, Chavez, or Augustus. All they hit was shoulders against Floyd. Guess those are scored higher than a headshot by some people who had those fights close.

          What you failed to point out is that it wasn't a steady attack by Castillo. Floyd ain't going to be a willing target, he was moving against Castillo, even against Chavez but Chavez didn't have the power yet he was winning a lot of rounds so in my opinion it was effective when Chavez did that against Mayweather. Castillo and Chavez may have fought Mayweather similar but it wasn't the same style or aggresion.

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            #25
            Originally posted by RunWithKnives
            I'm certain you've seen his fight with Augustus.

            that's virtually all Emmanuel did....was try the exact tactic you are describing. He let his hands go on his shoulders, body, hell everywhere he could.

            Floyd shook all the punches off and they had little or no effect on him as the fight progressed.

            And augustus is not featherfisted in my opinion.

            to me he is featherfisted.he rarely takes ppl out early,and i remember that fight. and his punches werent all that hard

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            • ferocity
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              #26
              Originally posted by RunWithKnives
              I'm certain you've seen his fight with Augustus.

              that's virtually all Emmanuel did....was try the exact tactic you are describing. He let his hands go on his shoulders, body, hell everywhere he could.

              Floyd shook all the punches off and they had little or no effect on him as the fight progressed.

              And augustus is not featherfisted in my opinion.
              Id have to review that fight again, but my opinion wont change.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mystyal2k5
                to me he is featherfisted.he rarely takes ppl out early,and i remember that fight. and his punches werent all that hard
                They were in bunches.

                And in the sense of breaking someone down, when they are a sitting duck in the corner like Floyd was purposely trying to be.....that's how you would do it.

                Augustus let his hands go and was throwing punches like he had a problem with authority, on every part of his torso.



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                  #28
                  [because Rocky is better than Zab

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                  • ferocity
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                    They were in bunches.

                    And in the sense of breaking someone down, when they are a sitting duck in the corner like Floyd was purposely trying to be.....that's how you would do it.

                    Augustus let his hands go and was throwing punches like he had a problem with authority, on every part of his torso.
                    Did he also include a body attack, a head attack?

                    Another thing fighters don't do as much or don't know how -without getting a point taken- is how to hit the opponets hips. This alone will whear a fighter down, tire his legs.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BloodClot
                      [because Rocky is better than Zab
                      ahahaha. who said ne thing about zab. im jus curious on why FIGHTERS dont hit his shoulders

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