how come ppl dont pull a rocky on mayweather and start hitting shoulders

[suberstar_zx6R]

if not mistaken isnt that what gatti said he was going to do?
to bad he never got a chance to try it but it may work for some one with better speed and skill like zab.

[Run]

i think it depends on how strong of an hitter u r also

Well, Floyd has faced his share of simply huge punchers. I really don't think there is someone out there that can land a 1 punch K.O. on him.

He's a gymrat who's at a higher level than everyone else, and more than likely has seen it all.

You could put him in with the hardest of punchers relative to his divisions IE Lazcano, Margarito, Hatton, etc. I really don't think their punches will have any more effect on him than anyone else he's faced.

Especially on the body. Because he rolls his shoulders and the punches land on his back. You could hit him with a baseball bat on the shoulder blades, and he'd shake it off.



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[ferocity]

People rarely talk about it, and I think it's one of Floyd's most underrated assets...and that is his chin, and physical endurance for pain. The guy's chin is made out of granite, and his body is solid as a rock.

We could simply go back and watch tape of all his fights, and you'd notice how tough he is. When he does get hit clean, he shakes it right off.....alot of boxer punchers developed a style around not getting hit, because they can't take it on the chin or body.

Floyd doesn't want any uncessesary punishment but he sure can take it about as well as the next guy. I don't think hitting him on the shoulders would do a damn thing except leave someone open for a clean uppercut countershot.

I disaggree in a long fight your opponets hands would get lower and lower from all the brusis. I bet Branco against Cotto didn't have a dislocated shoulder, he just thought he did cause of Cottos effective punchs that hurt that shoulder.

Theirs another way to take a fighters jab away or right hand, and that is to target the should so he will not be able to rotate his shoulder to shot the jab or right hand.

You'll hear coachs tell their fighters to hit their opponets chest to take thier wind and/or stop them in their tracks. Similar idea with the punchs to the arms meaning = shoulder, bicep, tricep and forearm.

As mentioned Marciano used to break down opponets in this manner.

[Verstyle]

honestly i think some1 with a decent punch with that away mayweathers speed but this would take at least 7 or 8 rounds though

[ferocity]

Well, Floyd has faced his share of simply huge punchers. I really don't think there is someone out there that can land a 1 punch K.O. on him.

He's a gymrat who's at a higher level than everyone else, and more than likely has seen it all.

You could put him in with the hardest of punchers relative to his divisions IE Lazcano, Margarito, Hatton, etc. I really don't think their punches will have any more effect on him than anyone else he's faced.

Especially on the body. Because he rolls his shoulders and the punches land on his back. You could hit him with a baseball bat on the shoulder blades, and he'd shake it off.

I forgot what round it was but Castillo hit Mayweather with some good body punchs and Mayweather felt them as he backed away.

And check out Chavez v. Mayweather, Chavez was hitting Mayweather all over the place, if only he had Castillo power. But Chavez was still landing his share of punchs to Mayweather.

[Run]

I disaggree in a long fight your opponets hands would get lower and lower from all the brusis. I bet Branco against Cotto didn't have a dislocated shoulder, he just thought he did cause of Cottos effective punchs that hurt that shoulder.

Theirs another way to take a fighters jab away or right hand, and that is to target the should so he will not be able to rotate his shoulder to shot the jab or right hand.

You'll hear coachs tell their fighters to hit their opponets chest to take thier wind and/or stop them in their tracks. Similar idea with the punchs to the arms meaning = shoulder, bicep, tricep and forearm.

As mentioned Marciano used to break down opponets in this manner.

Sure, that's an effective tactic.

I'm only discussing this in the case of Floyd Mayweather Jr...and I think Floyd would love for people to target his shoulders. That would actually make his day, because like mentioned earlier....he'll just land uppercutts on the inside when someone is caught reaching.

In my best estimation, the only way to beat him is to either wrecklessly take the fight to him, take some to land one on the chin.....or to beat him at his own game. Something we haven't seen anyone else do because of the lack of pure boxers in the relative divisions.

In fact...there really are none at the top tier.



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[Run]

I forgot what round it was but Castillo hit Mayweather with some good body punchs and Mayweather felt them as he backed away.

Sure he felt the body shots, he's not a machine.

But the fact remains the body shots had little or no effect on the outcome of the fight. If the body punches don't break him down....there is absolutely no sense in throwing them.

They generally don't earn the respect from the judges in comparison to hard shots on the chin. I still say that's where JLC ****ed up in those fights.

And saying he "****ed up" is a ridiculous statement, but he did in fact lose the fights on the judges scorecards.



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[ferocity]

honestly i think some1 with a decent punch with that away mayweathers speed but this would take at least 7 or 8 rounds though

That about the rounds where a sound body attack would eventually start to show, or show on a fighter in a fight.

[ferocity]

Sure, that's an effective tactic.

I'm only discussing this in the case of Floyd Mayweather Jr...and I think Floyd would love for people to target his shoulders. That would actually make his day, because like mentioned earlier....he'll just land uppercutts on the inside when someone is caught reaching.

In my best estimation, the only way to beat him is to either wrecklessly take the fight to him, take some to land one on the chin.....or to beat him at his own game. Something we haven't seen anyone else do because of the lack of pure boxers in the relative divisions.

In fact...there really are none at the top tier.

After awhile of hitting him on the arms he wouldn't throw it much more. And block his uppercuts when he is throwing them.

[Verstyle]

Sure, that's an effective tactic.

I'm only discussing this in the case of Floyd Mayweather Jr...and I think Floyd would love for people to target his shoulders. That would actually make his day, because like mentioned earlier....he'll just land uppercutts on the inside when someone is caught reaching.

In my best estimation, the only way to beat him is to either wrecklessly take the fight to him, take some to land one on the chin.....or to beat him at his own game. Something we haven't seen anyone else do because of the lack of pure boxers in the relative divisions.

In fact...there really are none at the top tier.

well not jsu go for the shoulders. jus if thats the only thing thats open. sense he has a very good defense