Which of These Two Fighters do You Have Ranked Higher All-Time RIGHT NOW?

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  • Divine Hammer
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    #81
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    I'm not a fan of Floyd or Manny but when Manny's excuse in 2009 was no needles and in 2015 he needed a shot to help him...

    Yeah, GTFO with that ****. Even Floyd has more credibility than Manny on top of being higher on the ATG list.
    so...

    - 2000-2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the decade
    - 2006, 2008, 2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the year (only fighter of this era to win fighter of the year 3 times by both organizations)
    - first 4 weight lineal champ (flyweight, featherweight, super feather, jr. welterweight)
    - first and only 7 weight world champion
    - wins against numerous hof'ers, world champions, etc.
    - turned pro at minimumweight and has fought all the way up to welterweight
    - rose out of complete poverty living in a 3rd world country to become a global superstar!!!!!!

    none of these matter??? some reason that makes him lower ranked than hopkins, roy jones, marciano, chavez sr, pernell whitaker, floyd, etc.??????? give me a break hahahahahahahahahahaha. terrible list.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #82
      Originally posted by Divine Hammer
      how is manny and wlad not deserving???? so chavez sr and pernell whitaker accomplished more than manny and beat far better opponents than manny to justify that high????? give me a break. and how is marciano on that list but not wlad?????? where's calzaghe who beat hopkins AND roy????? what is up with this weird list. manny has accomplished MORE than floyd, roy, hopkins, chavez sr, pernell whitaker, marciano, etc.

      again this list isn't good. seriously, chavez sr that high???????? even looking at the rest u see foreman above manny???? what sense does that make?

      this is pure proganda bias. sure there might be one or two non-americans but the majority is clearly american. just look at that biased list hahahahahahahaha.
      sorry dude, but people that know boxing know Floyd is far ahead of Manny (and wlad).

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #83
        Originally posted by Divine Hammer
        so...

        - 2000-2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the decade
        - 2006, 2008, 2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the year (only fighter of this era to win fighter of the year 3 times by both organizations)
        - first 4 weight lineal champ (flyweight, featherweight, super feather, jr. welterweight)
        - first and only 7 weight world champion
        - wins against numerous hof'ers, world champions, etc.
        - turned pro at minimumweight and has fought all the way up to welterweight
        - rose out of complete poverty living in a 3rd world country to become a global superstar!!!!!!

        none of these matter??? some reason that makes him lower ranked than hopkins, roy jones, marciano, chavez sr, pernell whitaker, floyd, etc.??????? give me a break hahahahahahahahahahaha. terrible list.
        Where did I say nothing he did matters? I said Floyd has more credibility and is better on the ATG list.

        @ the bold - Do you think he was the only fighter to do that lol?

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          #84
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          sorry dude, but people that know boxing know Floyd is far ahead of Manny (and wlad).
          Dude, were did your boss-like Al Haymon avi go? I miss it, put it back on right now please. It's like a beacon in the dark for us Floyd fans.

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          • Johnwoo8686
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            #85
            Originally posted by Divine Hammer
            so...

            - 2000-2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the decade
            - 2006, 2008, 2009 BWAA and ring fighter of the year (only fighter of this era to win fighter of the year 3 times by both organizations)
            - first 4 weight lineal champ (flyweight, featherweight, super feather, jr. welterweight)
            - first and only 7 weight world champion
            - wins against numerous hof'ers, world champions, etc.
            - turned pro at minimumweight and has fought all the way up to welterweight
            - rose out of complete poverty living in a 3rd world country to become a global superstar!!!!!!

            none of these matter??? some reason that makes him lower ranked than hopkins, roy jones, marciano, chavez sr, pernell whitaker, floyd, etc.??????? give me a break hahahahahahahahahahaha. terrible list.
            Manny hasn't beat one prime HOF'er. I'm suing the term prime because you keep using it in reference to Floyd but conveniently forget that NONE of the HOF'ers Manny fought were prime.. And Floyd beat even more world champions than Manny, and did it without losing or getting KO'd.

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            • Johnwoo8686
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              #86
              Originally posted by betmen
              Floyd is the best in this generation, 20 years from now boxing pundits will finally accept him as TBE, for me he's in the top 5 possibly top 3 depending my mood.

              But the mos hilarious thing is there're dumb kunt here who still think Barerra is past prime in pacquiao 1 (i'm talking about you Johnwoo, you rancid puddle of period bloods)
              Go back and watch the full fight again. Barrerra is quoted as saying he felt he was past his best at that point. The man was coming off of 60 fights, and three wars with Morales. Check your facts dumbass

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              • New England
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                #87
                pacquiao has the better resume. floyd was the better h2h fighter.


                this would have been a different poll in 2014, and that's wrong. manny is all done as a fighter. his last few years have shown us that, but a lot of you don't know what to look for. a lot of you weren't watching pacquiao when he was truly prime, either.


                voted for pacquiao. he's got the better resume. floyd lacks prime, top competition. his resume goes off of the strength of his longevity and undefeated record. his accomplishments are impressive, but he doesn't have wins over prime or near prime hall of famers / all time greats. manny has barrerra and marquez, and a less than prime but still viable erik morales.

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                • Xi_
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                  #88
                  Pacquiao, hasn't definitively beat any prime hof'ers......he lost every jmm fight and Barrera wasn't prime....morales definitely wasn't prime. No one with any credibility ranks pacquiao above Floyd..... Since 2009 Floyd has distanced himself from pacquiao by a large margin.

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                  • betmen
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    Go back and watch the full fight again. Barrerra is quoted as saying he felt he was past his best at that point. The man was coming off of 60 fights, and three wars with Morales. Check your facts dumbass
                    those statement is so 2009. it's so nostalgic to hear this kind moronic statement again.

                    Okay let's be serious. barerra was 29 years old the best age for boxer, before pac fight he coming of 8 great wins including win again Naseem hamed, morales, Johnny tapia and kevin kelley. after the pacquiao loss he beat Morales again, paulie ayala, rocky juares and became the ring super fetherweight champion only to loss that title to ATG Juan manuel marquez.

                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    Barrerra is quoted as saying he felt he was past his best at that point
                    Really?? an excuse after a fighter lose is your argument??!

                    Go argue with divine hammer, you guys are on the same level. dont bark your **** at me

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                    • Johnwoo8686
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by betmen
                      those statement is so 2009. it's so nostalgic to hear this kind moronic statement again.

                      Okay let's be serious. barerra was 29 years old the best age for boxer, before pac fight he coming of 8 great wins including win again Naseem hamed, morales, Johnny tapia and kevin kelley. after the pacquiao loss he beat Morales again, paulie ayala, rocky juares and became the ring super fetherweight champion only to loss that title to ATG Juan manuel marquez.



                      Really?? an excuse after a fighter lose is your argument??!

                      Go argue with divine hammer, you guys are on the same level. dont bark your **** at me
                      He said he was past his best BEFORE the fight not after. Go do your homework. Yeah, he was 29 and no that is not the perfect age for a boxer. Seriously how old are you and how long have you been following the sport?
                      Tyson, Ali, Leonard were all slipping by the time they were 29.
                      how the hell are you prime after 60 plus fights and several wars? Get the **** outta here lol.

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