Which of These Two Fighters do You Have Ranked Higher All-Time RIGHT NOW?

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  • HanzGruber
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    #131
    Originally posted by BertoRollin'
    Yeah but who is the 32 time world champion
    Dammit I need to change my vote

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    • Johnwoo8686
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      #132
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      You have completely ignored everything I have said. I listed 4 criteria btw.

      In ring performance
      Achievements
      Dominance
      Main stream

      Lewis trumps Tyson in 3 of the 4. If you think he doesn't then I don't care.

      Take some english lesson.
      No Lewis does not. You're using a separate standard for Lewis/Tyson than you are using for Mayweather/Pacquiao. Tyson was considered more accomplished as a pro, was considered far more exciting, and was more popular to the mainstream. Tyson actually trumps Lewis in three out of the four categories you listed. Which is why Tyson is far more popular than Lewis But Tyson is still not greater than Lewis.

      My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
        No Lewis does not. You're using a separate standard for Lewis/Tyson than you are using for Mayweather/Pacquiao. Tyson was considered more accomplished as a pro, was considered far more exciting, and was more popular to the mainstream. Tyson actually trumps Lewis in three out of the four categories you listed. Which is why Tyson is far more popular than Lewis But Tyson is still not greater than Lewis.

        My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.
        Well said. Good post.

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          #134
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          Dude, were did your boss-like Al Haymon avi go? I miss it, put it back on right now please. It's like a beacon in the dark for us Floyd fans.
          Ask and ye shall receive.

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            #135
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Ask and ye shall receive.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Red Cyclone
              Trolling under ALTs make these little kiddies feel superior.
              It's pathetic. He should change it back to Dempseyrollin.

              And don't ever disrespect the resume of Marciano, his win over Louis is better than anything on Pac or Floyds resume. Even if Floyd beats a 50th fighter and retires, his resume pales in comparison to Rockys.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                No Lewis does not. You're using a separate standard for Lewis/Tyson than you are using for Mayweather/Pacquiao. Tyson was considered more accomplished as a pro, was considered far more exciting, and was more popular to the mainstream. Tyson actually trumps Lewis in three out of the four categories you listed. Which is why Tyson is far more popular than Lewis But Tyson is still not greater than Lewis.

                My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.

                Tyson is greater IMO and more accomplished, most of his big wins are over guys in their prime besides Larry Holmes




                Lewis biggest wins are over visibly washed up Tyson and Holyfield


                Both had their upsets but Buster Douglass was also a better fighter than the guys Lennox lost to......Douglass actually beat Oliver McCall, Greg Page and Trevor Berbick even though all people remember is him upsetting Tyson and getting blitzed by Holyfield


                Hasim Rahman lost every big fight he had outside oF HIS FIRST FIGHT with Lewis

                after those two wins his record falls off outside of Klitschko

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                  It's pathetic. He should change it back to Dempseyrollin.

                  And don't ever disrespect the resume of Marciano, his win over Louis is better than anything on Pac or Floyds resume. Even if Floyd beats a 50th fighter and retires, his resume pales in comparison to Rockys.
                  Rocky Marciano couldn't carry Larry Holmes Jock strap nor Mayweathers

                  Marciano has to be one of the most overrated Heavyweight champions ever and his resume is Hot Gawbage for all the hoopla...no one in their right mind thinks his resume is one of the best in hos own division, let alone the other guys....Look at who Tyson, Ali, Holmes, Louis....even Wlad Klitschko has a better resume....beat more world ranked opposition...Rockys best wins are over middle aged men and Ezzard Charles was like 100+ fights in and started at 160 as a pro

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    Tyson is greater IMO and more accomplished, most of his big wins are over guys in their prime besides Larry Holmes




                    Lewis biggest wins are over visibly washed up Tyson and Holyfield


                    Both had their upsets but Buster Douglass was also a better fighter than the guys Lennox lost to......Douglass actually beat Oliver McCall, Greg Page and Trevor Berbick even though all people remember is him upsetting Tyson and getting blitzed by Holyfield


                    Hasim Rahman lost every big fight he had outside oF HIS FIRST FIGHT with Lewis

                    after those two wins his record falls off outside of Klitschko
                    No way is Tyson greater. The argument you used to state why Tyson is greater is the same argument Pacquiao fans use to say Manny is greater than Floyd.

                    "Most of his wins are against guys in their primes while the other guys biggest wins were against guys who were washed up."

                    ^^^Sound familiar?
                    Last edited by Johnwoo8686; 08-27-2015, 01:22 PM.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                      No way is Tyson greater. The argument you used to state why Tyson is greater is the same argument Pacquiao fans use to say Manny is greater than Floyd.

                      "Most of his wins are against guys in their primes while the other guys biggest wins were against guys who were washed up."

                      ^^^Sound familiar?

                      Tyson beat better overall opposition IMO and he also fought them at better times in their career....just like Floyd did in comparison to Pacquaio

                      that was my argument on Mayweather and Pacquaio I cant speak for what others said

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