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  • #41
    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    wasn't it ward that just fought at 172? why aren't you saying ward is struggling to make 168 he needs to move up and fight kovalev? because of all the great fights ward is trying to make at 168?
    Because Ward has not attempted to negotiate fights with other LHW's.

    Golovkin attempted to negotiate with Froch/Chavez at 168.

    I dont have a problem with Golovkin fighting Cotto/Canelo winner.

    Providing he accepts the catchweight of course.

    Cotto/Canelo are both JMW's, and GGG wanted a catchweight from Ward.

    Fair is fair.

    If you guys are gonna accept catchweights today, then you can accept them tomorrow as well.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      So they let Mayweather off the hook, but mandated the MW belt

      The last sentence in the article is incorrect !

      " Of course the fighters could choose to relinquish the belt if they decide to have an immediate rematch ".

      It should read .....

      " Of course the fighters could choose to relinquish the belt, for any reason they want, including a scheduling clash with a hairdresser ".

      Highly unlikely that either of those stars will be pushed into anything, let alone into an actual boxing match at middleweight.

      If the winner does decide to defend, then Golovkin better get used to midnight runs and the taste of lettuce..... otherwise, he can bank a vacant title.

      #at155doe
      #wardat164doe
      #anyonefrom154-168doe
      GGG can make 154 easy. However, Canelo has fought his last two fights at 155. GGG is a small middle weight and it will be a middleweight belt they fight for. I see them agreeing on 157. GGG won't go lower than that and he shouldn't have too. If Canelo vacates because GGG won't come down to 155, then GGG will have the belt. That is the main thing.

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      • #43
        I dont know how you guys can accept catchweights.

        They are completely unnecessary, and are obviously being exploited to gain an unfair advantage..... just like Golovkin recently did to Andre Ward.

        But, today..... catchweights are fine, and I completely support them

        155/156 it is then ^^

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        • #44
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          Because Ward has not attempted to negotiate fights with other LHW's.

          Golovkin attempted to negotiate with Froch/Chavez at 168.

          I dont have a problem with Golovkin fighting Cotto/Canelo winner.

          Providing he accepts the catchweight of course.

          Cotto/Canelo are both JMW's, and GGG wanted a catchweight from Ward.

          Fair is fair.

          If you guys are gonna accept catchweights today, then you can accept them tomorrow as well.
          ward said he would fight anyone at 175. so i guess he was just lying when he said that since he hasn't tried to negotiate with anyone? so because ggg was more proactive that's a bad thing while ward sat on his ass and didn't try to fight anyone...and that's a good thing? hmm ok

          cotto is a 160 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

          ward is a 168 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

          cotto and ggg are mandated to fight.

          ward and ggg are not mandated to fight.

          why are you pretending it's the same thing?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by GaryMSchneider View Post
            GGG can make 154 easy. However, Canelo has fought his last two fights at 155. GGG is a small middle weight and it will be a middleweight belt they fight for. I see them agreeing on 157. GGG won't go lower than that and he shouldn't have too. If Canelo vacates because GGG won't come down to 155, then GGG will have the belt. That is the main thing.
            BULLSHHT !

            You completely made that up !

            If GGG could make 154 and be healthy he would obviously be fighting there.

            Golovkin has never weighed 154 and is now in his 10th year fighting as a professional.

            Also, no way would Golovkin be the same fighter at 154, no way, no how.

            But I agree with your last sentence.

            Golovkin is full of shht..... despite stating that he will fight anyone from 154-168, he will likely NOT accept a catchweight of 156..... so he will likely be fighting {insert bum here} for a vacant title and be paid 500k.

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            • #46
              I hope it's Canelo then who wins. Cotto wouldn't want to fight GGG unless it's at a catchweight (probably closer to 154 than 160). Canelo might ask for a catchweight but it'll probably be a fair weight if they did. Maybe like 158.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                Because Ward has not attempted to negotiate fights with other LHW's.

                Golovkin attempted to negotiate with Froch/Chavez at 168.

                I dont have a problem with Golovkin fighting Cotto/Canelo winner.

                Providing he accepts the catchweight of course.

                Cotto/Canelo are both JMW's, and GGG wanted a catchweight from Ward.

                Fair is fair.

                If you guys are gonna accept catchweights today, then you can accept them tomorrow as well.

                Ward didn't accept a CW from GGG, so GGG doesn't need to accept one from the winner of Cotto/Canelo. Yeah?

                And they would be fighting for the MW title, not the SWW, so your point is completely irrelevent anyhow.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  ward said he would fight anyone at 175. so i guess he was just lying when he said that since he hasn't tried to negotiate with anyone? so because ggg was more proactive that's a bad thing while ward sat on his ass and didn't try to fight anyone...and that's a good thing? hmm ok

                  cotto is a 160 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

                  ward is a 168 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

                  cotto and ggg are mandated to fight.

                  ward and ggg are not mandated to fight.

                  why are you pretending it's the same thing?
                  Because.....

                  1) anyone with an ounce of common-sense can see that Cotto weighs 153 and Canelo weighs 155..... BOTH are obviously JMW's

                  The fact that you struggle to accept that those guys are both JMW's is the cause of this problem..... and that problem is caused by your unjustifiable insistance that the lineal title is somehow important or relevant. Your confusion proves that it is not important or relevant.

                  2) Golovkin said " anyone from 154-168 "

                  Dont shoot me man, I'm just the messenger.

                  3) Golovkin actually attempted to negotiate with Froch/Chavez, whereas Ward simply made an off-hand comment a few years back..... hardly the same thing, so why are you pretending that they are the same?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    Ward didn't accept a CW from GGG, so GGG doesn't need to accept one from the winner of Cotto/Canelo. Yeah?

                    And they would be fighting for the MW title, not the SWW, so your point is completely irrelevent anyhow.
                    No !

                    Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

                    Canelo and Cotto are obviously JMW's, weighing 155 and 153 respectively.

                    If it is fair to demand a CW from Ward, after agreeing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168..... then a catchweight for 153lb Cotto and 155lb Canelo is as fair as you can get.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      ward said he would fight anyone at 175. so i guess he was just lying when he said that since he hasn't tried to negotiate with anyone? so because ggg was more proactive that's a bad thing while ward sat on his ass and didn't try to fight anyone...and that's a good thing? hmm ok

                      cotto is a 160 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

                      ward is a 168 pound champ. ggg is a 160 pound champ.

                      cotto and ggg are mandated to fight.

                      ward and ggg are not mandated to fight.

                      why are you pretending it's the same thing?
                      Because that's what he does. Logic and fairness mean nothing to some people.

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