Comments Thread For: Thurman To Press Mayweather Until Retirement is Official

[rasdun]

Thurman is not the silly **** here.

Mayweathers retirement date has been set-in-stone for years.

Thurman - and the others - intentionally avoided tough competition heading toward September..... and now that Thurman does not have enough time to earn that payday by fighting, he is trying to earn it by talking..... just like Khan.

Thurman is not the silly **** here.

All of the people who say that Thurman earned that fight are the silly ****s.

The young guns should fight each other. That said, its not as it Berto or Robert Guererro did any more to earn their fights

[rasdun]

Some blame has to go to Al Haymon too. Khan, Thurman and Garcia are his B Level cashcows in the WW division (Floyd being the A Level cashcow).

These guys could make it into the A level cashcow bracket once Floyd retires so its in Al's interest to keep these guys ticking over with winnable fights. Not saying Haymon will put them in with bums but winnable fights. I mean Thurman got a list of 1 boxer he could face for his last fight. One boxer which was Collazo. That's all he had to choose from.

Haymon wants to prolong their careers as much as possible by keeping them undefeated and taking his 15% or whatever he takes for every fight..

SO WRONG! guys become stars by beating stars. Floyd and Pac became soooo much bigger after wins over de la Hoya. de lah Hoya became big because of his desire to face all the big names coming up, including JCC, Whitaker and Quartey. Mike Tyson became soo much bigger after his annihilation of Spinks; SRL huse after his wins over Duran and Hearns.

Thurman and Khan will never become a true "A" level cashcow (as you put it) unless they have a career-definin fight - which now would be Mayweather or pac

[aboutfkntime]

I do think Belt Organizations ordering fights could really help get these young guys fighting each other though. Start ordering more eliminators and more Mandatory's would really help. But when you just accept bigger fees and letting guys do what they want it becomes a big mess.

Just saying, if WBC ordered Mayweather to take his Mandatory, we would have gotten Mayweather vs Khan. If WBA ordered him to take his Mandatory then Thurman would have gotten his shot at Mayweather. Same with Lara at 154. Instead WBA have these ***ing "SUPER CHAMPIONS" and "World Champion" I have no ***ing clue what that is and why they have that, I guess just more ways to collect more fees from different fighters but it is so ******!

I'm not gonna argue with that..... but it comes down to the fans imho.

We all know that the ABC bodies are unreliable, corrupt, and money-oriented.

It is not the ABC bodies who are saying that Thurman/Khan deserve a Mayweather payday, despite the fact that they have obviously done nothing to deserve a Mayweather payday..... it is the silly fans who are saying it.

For the 12 month period heading toward Mayweathers retirement fight in September, we did not get one meaningful fight at welter other than Porter/Brook..... Porter lost, and Brook followed up with Frankie Gavin.

Khan blatantly ducked Brook, and Thurman has been talking about fighting big names for the last 3 years, but hasn't actually got around to doing it as yet.

Why aren't the fans demanding that these guys step up ?

Nobody wanted it, and yet some fans have decided to blame Floyd

Mayweather is the only guy who will fight anyone, and he selected Berto ffs.

It is possible that the division may continue to stagnate until Mayweather officially retires..... but that is not Mayweathers fault.

[aboutfkntime]

The young guns should fight each other. That said, its not as it Berto or Robert Guererro did any more to earn their fights

Guerrero was coming off a career defining win, and he was ranked #3 at welter.

[aboutfkntime]

SO WRONG! guys become stars by beating stars. Floyd and Pac became soooo much bigger after wins over de la Hoya. de lah Hoya became big because of his desire to face all the big names coming up, including JCC, Whitaker and Quartey. Mike Tyson became soo much bigger after his annihilation of Spinks; SRL huse after his wins over Duran and Hearns.

Thurman and Khan will never become a true "A" level cashcow (as you put it) unless they have a career-definin fight - which now would be Mayweather or pac

I agree, but Hoya/Mayweather/Pac earned those fights and opportunities.

Thurman/Khan have not.

Khan has done nothing at welter, and he has losses to avenge. His earlier losses could be overlooked if he was currently relevant at welter, but hes not.

And Thurman has done absolutely nothing but talk, at least Khan has history in the lower divisions.

[aboutfkntime]

I'm not gonna argue with that..... but it comes down to the fans imho.

We all know that the ABC bodies are unreliable, corrupt, and money-oriented.

It is not the ABC bodies who are saying that Thurman/Khan deserve a Mayweather payday, despite the fact that they have obviously done nothing to deserve a Mayweather payday..... it is the silly fans who are saying it.

For the 12 month period heading toward Mayweathers retirement fight in September, we did not get one meaningful fight at welter other than Porter/Brook..... Porter lost, and Brook followed up with Frankie Gavin.

Khan blatantly ducked Brook, and Thurman has been talking about fighting big names for the last 3 years, but hasn't actually got around to doing it as yet.

Why aren't the fans demanding that these guys step up ?

Nobody wanted it, and yet some fans have decided to blame Floyd

Mayweather is the only guy who will fight anyone, and he selected Berto ffs.

It is possible that the division may continue to stagnate until Mayweather officially retires..... but that is not Mayweathers fault.

For example.......

floyd is completely ducking khan. khan isn't past prime enough for floyd. because u see floyd only fights threats when they're well past their prime. khan still has the speed, activity, reach to bother floyd.

why else would floyd choose berto over khan?????? floyd wants a very very easy fight to retire on. that coward punk.

[doom_specialist]

Fighters need to stop putting so much stock into Mayweather and more into themselves.

Floyd is a star because he built a brand. If other fighters would do this and stop hoping for the Mayweather Sweepstakes, they could become stars in their own right.

No one else from 147 to 160 is really visible because their favorite word is Floyd :/

[boxingfan1986]

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Originally Posted by boxingfan1986

Some blame has to go to Al Haymon too. Khan, Thurman and Garcia are his B Level cashcows in the WW division (Floyd being the A Level cashcow).

These guys could make it into the A level cashcow bracket once Floyd retires so its in Al's interest to keep these guys ticking over with winnable fights. Not saying Haymon will put them in with bums but winnable fights. I mean Thurman got a list of 1 boxer he could face for his last fight. One boxer which was Collazo. That's all he had to choose from.

Haymon wants to prolong their careers as much as possible by keeping them undefeated and taking his 15% or whatever he takes for every fight..

SO WRONG! guys become stars by beating stars. Floyd and Pac became soooo much bigger after wins over de la Hoya. de lah Hoya became big because of his desire to face all the big names coming up, including JCC, Whitaker and Quartey. Mike Tyson became soo much bigger after his annihilation of Spinks; SRL huse after his wins over Duran and Hearns.

Thurman and Khan will never become a true "A" level cashcow (as you put it) unless they have a career-definin fight - which now would be Mayweather or pac

Mate you've just agree with me there. They need that career defining fight so they're all holding out for it. Being careful navigated by Al haymon. Obviously they can't all get a shot at manny or Floyd but one of them will get it at some point and haymons job is to get them there without damage or as less damage as possible



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[aboutfkntime]

Mate you've just agree with me there. They need that career defining fight so they're all holding out for it. Being careful navigated by Al haymon. Obviously they can't all get a shot at manny or Floyd but one of them will get it at some point and haymons job is to get them there without damage or as less damage as possible

They are all " hoping "..... instead of " earning ".

Hoping, is ok..... but why not do something positive in the meantime ?

How does doing nothing inspire confidence in Floyd Mayweather ?

[Bossman15]

Mate you've just agree with me there. They need that career defining fight so they're all holding out for it. Being careful navigated by Al haymon. Obviously they can't all get a shot at manny or Floyd but one of them will get it at some point and haymons job is to get them there without damage or as less damage as possible



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That's What Floyd was saying about Khan but he still could of fought Khan Or Porter in between time and fought Berto back in 2010. but once again Floyd just like most take steps back to fight guys who lost to the ones that he ends up fighting for the easy win like him fighting Ortiz and Maidana twice when he should of fought Thurman and Brook but them two have to have a meaningful fight ahead if they expect Floyd to stick around for that 50th fight.

Same with Garcia but they do need to sanction more Mandatories and Elimanators because it will give boxers the chance to fight everyone in the division and will not allow boxers to run and duck opponent's like Wilder has done plus I thought Thurman was about to cry when they interviewed him about this lol