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  • #61
    Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
    You really are a special type of ******. I was pointing out the cracks in the foundation of this supposedly utopian combat arena known as the UFC.You said fighters fight everybody in the UFC then why did Aldo avoid Pettis.Why are so many major fights scrapped because of injury?Your best fighter is currently suspended,and legends like GSP and Tito Ortiz are treated like crap by Dana White.I also called Belfort a cheater what you didn't refute because you know it's true,dud was allowed to fight with abnormally high testosterone levels.As for those things likes weight or the Fedor situation the UFC should have been able to work it out. Also why can't Rousey and Cyborg have a catch weight fight?Why does Cyborg have to be drained?Also if you don't know who Jon Fitch is you're probably not a serious fan of the sport.
    Rousey Cyborg can and will fight at a catch weight.
    Aren't Ortiz and GSP some of the highest grossing MMA fighters of all time?
    TRT wasn't a banned substance prior to this year
    Aldo Pettis fought.
    Fedor again fought overseas. He tried to cross over in his perennial "prime" and he lost.
    I dint know about Fitch. Heard his name before. Don't know anything about him.

    Again us going back and foourth over this proves what?

    Are you saying the MMA in its current state, everyone doesn't fight everyone systematically.

    Give me five top 10 MMA fighters in any division and go see who've they fought. And then go do the same for boxing.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
      Rousey Cyborg can and will fight at a catch weight.
      Aren't Ortiz and GSP some of the highest grossing MMA fighters of all time?
      TRT wasn't a banned substance prior to this year
      Aldo Pettis fought.
      Fedor again fought overseas. He tried to cross over in his perennial "prime" and he lost.
      I dint know about Fitch. Heard his name before. Don't know anything about him.

      Again us going back and foourth over this proves what?

      Are you saying the MMA in its current state, everyone doesn't fight everyone systematically.

      Give me five top 10 MMA fighters in any division and go see who've they fought. And then go do the same for boxing.
      In boxing you got guys like Adrien Broner who have never beaten anyone noteworthy in their entire careers running around screaming they're "3 time world champions."

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      • #63
        Another thing about UFC is you gotta beat the man that beat the man to become champion. They don't have a piss pool of paper titles. That alone hurts boxing and it's credability. That's why no one takes these guys serious when they're 50-0 45 KO's. Who the **** did you beat?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
          Oh god....really?

          Rousey Cyborg - weight. Actually working out a fight as we speak.
          GSP Silva - weight.
          Vitor Belfort - proven fighter, HOF most likely.
          Fedor - different company.
          Fitch - don't know anything about him.

          The sports been around for 25 years and you have 4 examples. dude, stfu already before I report you for idiocy. Go stick your thumb up your ass and order Berto Mayweather and talk to your flowemoe friends about how UFC is "just as bad as boxing."

          Oh and if Griffin has been "washed up for like ten years" well then Sonnen fought him like 10 years ago. Sooooo......??? Oh he got knocked out by a jab? Pretty sure Judah knocked Mayweather down with something close to a jab. He tripped him doe.
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
          ****** comparison. There is a difference between getting knocked out and getting knocked down. I knew Floyd haters lacked reasoning skills but this is just dumb. Judah knocked Floyd off balance with a left cross and Floyd went on to dominate Judah while Griffin was KO'd aka lost the fight by only a jab.

          Oh and you said UFC guys have to fight guys who are highly ranked in their divisions. Well..Berto is the first guy in YEARS that Floyd has fought who is not ranked in the top ten in his own division. Judah, De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, Maidana were all ranked around the top five in their divisions. Even Marquez was the top lightweight when he challenged Floyd. Which would be a lot like Rousey challenging Cyborg.

          Look, Berto is an easy touch for Floyd but I'm not going to blame a nearly 40 year old boxer at the end of his career who's been fighting nearly nothing but other world champions for the past ten years, for taking an easy touch.
          Just making sure you saw my response....

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
            Just making sure you saw my response....
            This is not about who Floyd is fighting. This is about Floyd saying guys that are 10-9 are getting title shots. I was saying because systematically, they have to climb to the top one by one. The 10th ranked guy has to fight 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 to get there. When you fight the best you will likely lose to some of the best on the way.

            This really has nothing to do with this fight personally, has to do with Fkoyds quote in the thread title.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
              In boxing you got guys like Adrien Broner who have never beaten anyone noteworthy in their entire careers running around screaming they're "3 time world champions."
              In UFC a WWE wrestler became champion in under five fights....

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              • #67
                Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
                Rousey Cyborg can and will fight at a catch weight.
                Aren't Ortiz and GSP some of the highest grossing MMA fighters of all time?
                TRT wasn't a banned substance prior to this year
                Aldo Pettis fought.
                Fedor again fought overseas. He tried to cross over in his perennial "prime" and he lost.
                I dint know about Fitch. Heard his name before. Don't know anything about him.

                Again us going back and foourth over this proves what?

                Are you saying the MMA in its current state, everyone doesn't fight everyone systematically.

                Give me five top 10 MMA fighters in any division and go see who've they fought. And then go do the same for boxing.
                What does Ortiz or GSP career earnings have to do with how they're treated by Dana after making that company what it is today?You say that the UFC moves in order of rank in the division so why did light Heavyweight champion Jon Jones defend his title against middle weights in consecutive bouts?Also you make it seem as if Fedor wasn't proven when he beat a lot of the guys under UFC banter when they fought in Pride.Also you should Google Fitch he was basically cut by the UFC for being dominantly boring

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
                  This is not about who Floyd is fighting. This is about Floyd saying guys that are 10-9 are getting title shots. I was saying because systematically, they have to climb to the top one by one. The 10th ranked guy has to fight 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 to get there. When you fight the best you will likely lose to some of the best on the way.

                  This really has nothing to do with this fight personally, has to do with Fkoyds quote in the thread title.
                  This has everything to do with this fight. Floyd's quote was in response to the people criticizing his choice of Berto. In boxing if you lose to the 7th ranked guy you have little to shot ever facing the number one guy. In boxing you have to continue to win to get to the top but sometimes especially nowadays guys get fights because of their name recognition.

                  Floyd's point is in the UFC guys can lose many times and still face the top guy. In boxing it is very difficult to lose several times and get a shot at the number one guy. Berto once held a belt and was in line for a Floyd fight but with 3 losses people are saying Berto has no shot. But in the UFC a guy can lose ten times and still not be considered shot.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
                    In UFC a WWE wrestler became champion in under five fights....
                    He beat the recognized champion. He didn't need a million time ups to build his brand he didn't have to come up the ranks, he was a novelty side show superstar and he owned his moment.

                    Another one off.
                    Last edited by SeekDaGreat; 08-09-2015, 03:04 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
                      This has everything to do with this fight. Floyd's quote was in response to the people criticizing his choice of Berto. In boxing if you lose to the 7th ranked guy you have little to shot ever facing the number one guy. In boxing you have to continue to win to get to the top but sometimes especially nowadays guys get fights because of their name recognition.

                      Floyd's point is in the UFC guys can lose many times and still face the top guy. In boxing it is very difficult to lose several times and get a shot at the number one guy. Berto once held a belt and was in line for a Floyd fight but with 3 losses people are saying Berto has no shot. But in the UFC a guy can lose ten times and still not be considered shot.
                      You can have that many losses and get a shot because of how the system is set up you win, you fight the guy directly in front if you. If you lose, you fall back. There is however one offs, and exceptions to the rule.

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