Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Khan Won Two Titles? So Did Andre Berto!

[alexguiness]

You are right. no doubt that Khan picked fighters with not a lot of KO power. But who has Berto beaten recently that is any better. Steve F***N Chambers and Joseito Lopez ? At least Alexander, Collazo and Algieri had proven to be top fighers who won world titles in their career

'Top Fighters'

I'm really not sure if either of them can be described as that.

I'd even struggle to put Alexander in that category to be honest.

Khan has a deeper resume at LWW (5 years ago) but you can't remove the fact Berto has held 2 belts at 147. Personally I don't think there is much between Khan and Berto at 147 - both have 3 defeats, have technical or physical weaknesses, are about the same age and past prime.

[rasdun]

Pacquiao fought two Berto quality opponents back to back on PPV and he didn't receive half the backlash Floyd is getting.. Rios coming off a loss and Algieri coming off a gift vs Provo. Let's just be real about it..

not really. Rios was a 4-1 underdog, Algieri was an 8-1 underdog. Berto is a 40-1 underdog.
Another difference, with Rios, Pac was coming off a brutal KO so to fight a guy who had ko power in his next fight was considered a risk by many. Even Bhop said Pac was taking a very tough challenge for fighting someone like Rios after the JMM loss.


Plus, another big difference - who should Pac have fought instead of those fighters. the TR v/ GB/Haymon feud limited Pac's options after Bradley and JMM.

Whereas here, Floyd has sooooo many better options that he foregoes for this 40-1 dog.

[ottocon860]

I won't buy fight but thats ok. He is at a point where he can decide how he wants to leave. He fought Manny last time, so I'm good with it, just not spending money on it.

[rasdun]

'Top Fighters'

I'm really not sure if either of them can be described as that.

I'd even struggle to put Alexander in that category to be honest.

Khan has a deeper resume at LWW (5 years ago) but you can't remove the fact Berto has held 2 belts at 147. Personally I don't think there is much between Khan and Berto at 147 - both have 3 defeats, have technical or physical weaknesses, are about the same age and past prime.

LOL. your right; the use of "top" fighters was too ******* there. But, I definitely wouldn't say Berto and Khan are the same. If Berto's 2 belts from 5 years ago mean anything that so should khan's wins over maidana, Judah, Malignaggi, and Kotelnick. All of whom were legit top 5-8 contenders at the time.

Also, one of Khan's losses was at 135. a 2nd was pretty controversial and overshadowed by known PED use by Peterson, the 3rd to Garcia - a bad loss - but Khan was winning the fight and got caught - it happens. Not all losses are created alike, I think you'd agree

[rasdun]

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Originally Posted by BertoRollin' View Post
Top 10-15 contenders don't get you Floyd. Sorry. You can spin it all you want. Khan's welterweight resume SUCKS.

REALLY? ok, please let me know what top fighter Berto has beaten who was a legitimate top 3-5 fighter in his weight class? much less in the past few years, since apparently, none of Khan's wins from a few years ago matter anymore

Bertorollin - you still trying to think of the great wins Berto got over legit top 3-5 contenders in the past few yrs to "earn" this fight, since, as you put it, wins over top 10-15 top fighters don't get you a fight vs floyd

[-PBP-]

REALLY? ok, please let me know what top fighter Berto has beaten who was a legitimate top 3-5 fighter in his weight class? much less in the past few years, since apparently, none of Khan's wins from a few years ago matter anymore

Berto doesn't need to beat any top fighters. He's a proven warrior that put his unbeaten record on the line to try and actually earn the fight unlike Khan, Brook, Thurman and Porter.

Only 2 fighters truly "deserve" the fight if that's the route you want to go and I already named them. The rest of these guys I could care less about. They have all been cherry picking and protecting their records.

[TheStranger]

not really. Rios was a 4-1 underdog, Algieri was an 8-1 underdog. Berto is a 40-1 underdog.
Another difference, with Rios, Pac was coming off a brutal KO so to fight a guy who had ko power in his next fight was considered a risk by many. Even Bhop said Pac was taking a very tough challenge for fighting someone like Rios after the JMM loss.


Plus, another big difference - who should Pac have fought instead of those fighters. the TR v/ GB/Haymon feud limited Pac's options after Bradley and JMM.

Whereas here, Floyd has sooooo many better options that he foregoes for this 40-1 dog.

You should copy and paste this response because it will come up over and over again in the next few weeks.

[thack]

I agree - Khan will duck Brook most likely. he should take on Thurman, Garcia or Porter now; otherwise keep your moth shut.

But can we also acknowledge that Khan is not the lb 4 lb # 1 fighter and doesn't charge $75 or more for his fights. Floyd vs Berto on CBS or Showimte would've been at least a little easier to accept.

What is "moth" .To discuss please give us a chance to at least understand what you are rambling on about.

[ox805er]

Wonder if the Flomo's are gonna call Bertita #80?... because of the status of underdog..

[rasdun]

Berto doesn't need to beat any top fighters. He's a proven warrior that put his unbeaten record on the line to try and actually earn the fight unlike Khan, Brook, Thurman and Porter.

Only 2 fighters truly "deserve" the fight if that's the route you want to go and I already named them. The of these guys I could care less about. They have all been cherry picking and protecting their records.

Cmon, your trolling, right. Khan has to earn it, even though his competition is better than Berto's. Who did Berto put his unbeaten record on the line against - Freddy hernandez, Carlos Quintana, Collazo and Juan Urango, and then he beat Jan Zaveck and Joseito Lopez. those wins are more impressive than Maidana, Judah, Malignaggi, Alexander, Kotelnick, Algieri, and Collazo too?
Please explain how he tried to earn it more than others??? I'd love to hear this. Im actually truly entertained that someone could be so delusional. LMAO
Especially considering you bring up Porter as not trying to earn it when he agreed to cut weight just so Broner would fight him, and then schooled Broner.