Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Khan Won Two Titles? So Did Andre Berto!

[rasdun]

A win over brook, Thurman, Bradley, Floyd(A++), pacquiao (A++)....those are the only A level wins at ww imo. I only said that Floyd must be tbe because of your low standards...the Guerrero's, broners and Porter's of of the world aren't A level fighters so how can they be A level wins?

I see your point, but then how is Thurman and Brook A level fighters, but Porter isn't. Did you watch Brook vs porter? that was a close fight could've went either way. Before Brook beat him, Porter was just as well regarded as Brook is now. Porter had come off of his win vs Alexander and absolutely starched Malignaggi. He was 2-1 fav v. Brook. Porter has since beat Broner. really cant see how beating Thurman would be A level win, but Porter win is not. If a guy is ranked in top 3-4 fighters in the weight clas, then that is an impressive win - whether you want to call it A or not.
I guess my point is that at some point you have to get your opportunity vs an A level fighter, and maybe you earn that with wins over a lot of B level fighters. And lately Berto doesn't even have any of those

[rasdun]

Actually trying does earn you something because Berto landed the fight while Khan is trying.

We know he landed the fight. Do you really think he got it because Mayweather was impressed that he fought and lost to Ortiz app 5 years ago??? Really?

[rasdun]

Actually trying does earn you something because Berto landed the fight while Khan is trying.

and ;ets be clear - its not as if Berto fought all comers. if anything he was constantly criticized by boxing insiders for fighting easy opposition. but now your argument is that he deserves it over Khan bc he has "tried" by fighting better opposition.
Steve Chambers anyone ??? lol

[sugarsmosley]

me and fetta are going to enjoy this together.


i'll pay double to watch this. anything for "TBE!"

[-PBP-]

We know he landed the fight. Do you really think he got it because Mayweather was impressed that he fought and lost to Ortiz app 5 years ago??? Really?

and ;ets be clear - its not as if Berto fought all comers. if anything he was constantly criticized by boxing insiders for fighting easy opposition. but now your argument is that he deserves it over Khan bc he has "tried" by fighting better opposition.
Steve Chambers anyone ??? lol

He landed the fight because he is a warrior, has a fan friendly style, has been in 2 fight of the years/candidates, is explosive, fast, powerful and will come to fight and push Floyd to his limits. He has proven that he was never scared to let his 0 go. Steve Upsher Chambers was a good comeback fight coming off a bad shoulder injury that sidelined him. So not only is he an exciting warrior with explosive power, he has a great comeback story and has overcome adversity time and time again.

Boxing needs more Andre "The Beast" Bertos and less A Mere "Queen" Cons

[deathofaclown]

Also, in fairness to Mayweather even though i think this fight is trash, a lot of his opponents have done at least something to justify getting the fight. Mosley destroyed Margarito so everyone wanted it, Canelo was a guy everyone wanted him to fight. Even Ortiz went and beat Berto for the WBC belt, even though Ortiz wasn't great he still actually took on an undefeated WW and won to put himself in position. Maidana made a name for himself taking Broner's 0 when some people claimed he was the next great thing.

What the hell has Khan done in the last few years except run his mouth?

Had Khan actually took on some good top WW's since being flattened by Garcia, he might have had a shot earlier. Instead he avoided fights incase he lost out in this pay day. Ironically it's what lost him the fight in my opinion.

[damian War]

not really. Rios was a 4-1 underdog, Algieri was an 8-1 underdog. Berto is a 40-1 underdog.
Another difference, with Rios, Pac was coming off a brutal KO so to fight a guy who had ko power in his next fight was considered a risk by many. Even Bhop said Pac was taking a very tough challenge for fighting someone like Rios after the JMM loss.


Plus, another big difference - who should Pac have fought instead of those fighters. the TR v/ GB/Haymon feud limited Pac's options after Bradley and JMM.

Whereas here, Floyd has sooooo many better options that he foregoes for this 40-1 dog.

bro, the reason berto is such a huge underdog is because hes facing floyd.. if berto was fighting pacquiao, the odds would not be that crazy.. but odds aside, im just talking about the QUALITY of opponents, berto is in the same league as rios and algieri. . i would favor him to beat rios and vs algieri its a toss up. . so all you bringing up is betting odds, im talking about skills, what does rios, algieri and berto bring to the table? .. you might get a pass saying manny picked the statue rios just because he was coming off a KO, but the algieri pick cannot be defended, he could've fought all of these guys at 147 that we want floyd to fight.. why couldn't he fight thurman, brook, khan, porter..and why don't we ask him to fight ggg at 154, didn't he win a belt there? and don't say he's too small since that excuse doesn't work for mayweather.

[Xi_]

I see your point, but then how is Thurman and Brook A level fighters, but Porter isn't. Did you watch Brook vs porter? that was a close fight could've went either way. Before Brook beat him, Porter was just as well regarded as Brook is now. Porter had come off of his win vs Alexander and absolutely starched Malignaggi. He was 2-1 fav v. Brook. Porter has since beat Broner. really cant see how beating Thurman would be A level win, but Porter win is not. If a guy is ranked in top 3-4 fighters in the weight clas, then that is an impressive win - whether you want to call it A or not.
I guess my point is that at some point you have to get your opportunity vs an A level fighter, and maybe you earn that with wins over a lot of B level fighters. And lately Berto doesn't even have any of those

The eye test is why thuman and porter are A level, they are A level for the same reason GGG is A level, they dominate their weak competition.......porter on the other hand is freaking awful! Kell Brook beat him easy, i dont know why people are calling that fight close. Eric bone (a bum coming in off a short notice)was giving porter some good work before the stoppage and porter went the distance with freaking Le Greco. Porter isn't A level at all!

[thack]

What does this even mean? You pretend to not understand me, bc I mistakenly typed moth instead of mouth.

I honestly don't get what this means

I might have to see your papers ....move on..Reading your posts here I see you are trying your up most but to absolutely no avail .Why are you even discussing Khan he's fought no one since being hammered at a lighter weight by a pretty flat footed fighter with a little dig.
People are never going to take your argument seriously until Khan does what he's been threatening to do for years and fight a top guy and until that time it would be best for you to wind your neck in !

[Chrismart]

He can fight who he wants, he can pick an easy fight if he wants for his last fight.
But there is no amount of spin he can put on the fight that will trick people into thinking Berto is a worthy opponent.

Lara at 154, Cotto II, Brook, Khan, Thurman, Porter, Garcia..plenty of better options to explore.
There's even better 'Gimme' fights than Berto. The likes of Collazo, Chaves and Alexander are better than Berto.

Berto has Sotto Karass problems. Not so long ago people were talking down Berto's chances in a potential rematch with Ortiz. He's that bad.

Mayweather should just be honest about the fight instead of the damage limitation quotes from him and Ellerbe.