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  • MC Hammer
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    #101
    Originally posted by Cruisin'
    face it floyds ass starts gaping uncontrollably just thinking about khan's devastating speed

    the boy wants only to give pleasure to superior boxers, not attempt to fight them

    he only fights destroyed leftovers like manny and berto
    So.... you decided to come out of the closet on a boxing forum?

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    • Xi_
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      #102
      Originally posted by rasdun
      Bc why would Khans wins at 140 mean nothing? . I mean if they do, then discount everything Berto did before 2012, and this choice of an opponent is even worse. and even if they didn't count, Wins over Alexander and Collazo and Algieri is waay better than what Berto has done the past 2 yrs. cannot really dispute that, can we?

      Also, Then what is an A level win - if Brook beating Porter doesn't qualify, or Porter beating Broner or Thurman beating Guererro, please let me know what would in fact qualify as an "A" level win in your opinion
      If those are A level wins then Floyd really is tbe.......lol because floyd dominated much better competition yet get grts criticized. Porter is a b level fighter so how can that be an A level win for brook? I have a very low opinion of porter's boxing skills. I actually prefer that floyd fought brook just to become undisputed because none of these ww's bring anything to the table worth while except zero fanbase and weak resumes.....Berto is a weak fight but Berto's also beat a better prime collazo so lets not ignore that....algieri is crap and Alexander is decent but tailormade for Khan.

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        #103
        Originally posted by rasdun
        Right, that would be an argument as to why Khan didn't deserve the fight 2 years ago. He has since fought and easily beat Alexander.
        Berto lost to Ortiz, but just the fact that he agreed to fight Ortiz seems to be your best reason as to how he earned this fight. telling, don't you think
        Too little too late. Alexander had already lost to Porter and was no longer a title holder. Khan isn't built like The Beast Berto. He wants the fight given to him whereas The Beast tried to go out and earn it in the ring. Did he come up short? Yes. But at least he tried.

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        • rasdun
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          #104
          Originally posted by Xi_
          If those are A level wins then Floyd really is tbe.......lol because floyd dominated much better competition yet get grts criticized. Porter is a b level fighter so how can that be an A level win for brook? I have a very low opinion of porter's boxing skills. I actually prefer that floyd fought brook just to become undisputed because none of these ww's bring anything to the table worth while except zero fanbase and weak resumes.....Berto is a weak fight but Berto's also beat a better prime collazo so lets not ignore that....algieri is crap and Alexander is decent but tailormade for Khan.
          But you never really answered my question. Honestly, if wins over Porter (by Brook) or Broner (by Porter) aren't "A" level wins, then what would be?

          And you are comparing Floyds wins to those of Porter or Brook. You realize boxing existed before 2005, right? if you want to talk about TBE, compare Floyds wins to SRL's wins over Duran, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez

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          • rasdun
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            #105
            Originally posted by BertoRollin'
            Too little too late. Alexander had already lost to Porter and was no longer a title holder. Khan isn't built like The Beast Berto. He wants the fight given to him whereas The Beast tried to go out and earn it in the ring. Did he come up short? Yes. But at least he tried.
            Thank you - you finished my argument for me. he came up short. "trying" to earn the fight gets you nothing. This isn't t-ball, no "A" for effort

            Ring rankings at 147: Khan #3, Berto UR; Transnational: Khan #4, Berto ur; Boxrec: Khan #6 and Berto #22.

            Anyone that is impartial can see Khan deserves the fight way more than Berto.

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              #106
              Originally posted by rasdun
              But you never really answered my question. Honestly, if wins over Porter (by Brook) or Broner (by Porter) aren't "A" level wins, then what would be?

              And you are comparing Floyds wins to those of Porter or Brook. You realize boxing existed before 2005, right? if you want to talk about TBE, compare Floyds wins to SRL's wins over Duran, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez
              A win over brook, Thurman, Bradley, Floyd(A++), pacquiao (A++)....those are the only A level wins at ww imo. I only said that Floyd must be tbe because of your low standards...the Guerrero's, broners and Porter's of of the world aren't A level fighters so how can they be A level wins?

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                #107
                Originally posted by rasdun
                Thank you - you finished my argument for me. he came up short. "trying" to earn the fight gets you nothing. This isn't t-ball, no "A" for effort

                Ring rankings at 147: Khan #3, Berto UR; Transnational: Khan #4, Berto ur; Boxrec: Khan #6 and Berto #22.

                Anyone that is impartial can see Khan deserves the fight way more than Berto.
                Actually trying does earn you something because Berto landed the fight while Khan is trying.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by BertoRollin'
                  The fight was in Berto's hands but he put his undefeated record on the line and fought Victor Ortiz. Khan skipped over Devon Alexander and hoped to be gifted the fight.

                  Berto >>>>> Khan

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                    #109
                    Neither deserve a shot to be fair.

                    Khan has done nothing since being iced by Garcia, how many years ago now? He still hasn't fought a real top Welterweight. Berto doesn't deserve it even more though.

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                      #110
                      He does have a point.


                      The same people bashing the fight will be watching it. Whether it be at a bar, a free stream, friends house, etc.



                      The haters, detractors, and critics have put more money in the man's pocket than his greatest fans, and they are too ****** to realize it.



                      Every article, thread, or media outlet discussing the fight, good or bad, is helping promote the fight

                      Ali fought some scrubs in his day, even in his title reigns....when he was floyds age he was losing to an 8 fight novice Leon Spinks...look at the guys Ali record past age 30...Jurgen Blin, Alfredo Evangelista,Jean-Pierre Coopman are nowhere near the cailbre of Andre Berto or Robert Guerrero who were major world titlists and legit top ten welterweights....some of yall disrespect good fighters just cause Mayweather is fighting them ..he fought some greats, good fighters and also some low tier guys...does that not make him the greatest


                      Mayweather is a great fighter and his consistency should be commended.


                      The haters talk about him more than the ones that love him
                      Last edited by therealpugilist; 08-07-2015, 11:26 AM.

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