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  • BazookaGomez
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    #171
    If Haymon was not in the picture and his fighter's were signed with other promoters, boxing would be in a far better place.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #172
      Originally posted by Fetta
      You know thats a straight lie. All you do is complain about money that isnt yours
      No I mention that PBC is losing money by overpaying fighters. That's bad business in my opinion. That's the only time I bring up the money. But if they were overpaying and giving fights I wanted to see I could care less if that is happening on PBC or HBO or any network. But you have fans openly celebrate their fighters facing mismatches because of the inflated purses. Who cares how much Danny Garica made to fight Salka? Some people justify Haymon's pathetic moves by purses like that.

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        #173
        Originally posted by kafkod
        BHop didn't pull out of fighting Stevenson. He had a deadline to fight his mando, which Haymon and Stevenson knew all about. He told Haymon he had to make the fight before the deadline ran out or the IBF would strip him of his title. He waited till midnight of the day before the deadline expired, and when Haymon hadn't returned his calls, he rang Duva and made the fight with Kovalev instead.
        ... Now they already "forgot" that context... Now they will tell that Hopkins ducked the pimp as Kovalev did it as well...

        They will tell you that Kovalev is ducking Artur ras we speak... a.s.o.

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        • BazookaGomez
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          #174
          It doesn't even matter who started what, fact is, the guy has burnt too many bridges with other promoters and we're at the receiving end of it. He's just a ****ty influence on the sport. PBC has been trash.

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            #175
            Originally posted by BazookaGomez
            If Haymon was not in the picture and his fighter's were signed with other promoters, boxing would be in a far better place.
            That's false because you had the GBP/Top Rank beef before Haymon. GBP and Top Rank didn't kiss and make up until Oscar's company was destroyed and he desperately needed an ally.

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              #176
              Originally posted by BazookaGomez
              It doesn't even matter who started what, fact is, the guy has burnt too many bridges with other promoters and we're at the receiving end of it. He's just a ****ty influence on the sport. PBC has been trash.
              That's why there are purse bids-in case deals can not be negotiated.

              The only bridge burned is HBO and HBO burned that themselves. GBP, TR and Duva are HBO affiliated so they co sign.

              Haymon has no problems with any other promoters.

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                #177
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                No, HBO blackballing Haymon affiliated fighters is what is depriving you of the fights you want to see. There is only 1 way Haymon doesn't get to control every aspect-if HBO lets his fighters on the network.

                You cited GBP fighters on HBO as proof HBO is giving you what you want. They didn't get back on HBO until HBO changed their stance on GBP fighters.

                Now you want things resolved differently for Haymon then it was for ODH/GBP. Man, that is crazy biased.
                No because i have mention multiple fighters and promoters that do not have deals with HBO and still those fights aren't made. Why isn't Khan fighting Brook? Lemiuex just fought his previous fight on Fox and does not have a contract with HBO. Why weren't any Haymon fighters trying to fight him? Andre Ward and Cotto both could fight on other networks but why isn't any haymon fighters trying to fight him. Stevenson said he turning down the Kovalev deal because he wanted to get a bigger deal by fighting Hopkins who had no deal with HBO at the time. Why didn't that fight happen? Instead we got Kovalev fighting Hopkins, fighting Pascal and trying to fight Beterbiev meanwhile who has Stevenson been fighting? This aint an accident. He is not even trying to fight Beterbiev nor is any of the rest of the top fighters in Haymon stable fighting each other.

                Like someone else said it's basically Haymon vs every other major player in boxing. But it's HBO's fault that non HBO contracted fighters Haymon wants nothing to do with. And on PBC broadcast they only mention Haymon fighters? Again it ain't blackball when you are secluding yourself from the rest of the sport.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by BertoRollin'
                  That's false because you had the GBP/Top Rank beef before Haymon. GBP and Top Rank didn't kiss and make up until Oscar's company was destroyed and he desperately needed an ally.
                  You sound dumb Haymon was the center of this beef. Once Haymon was removed now all a sudden GB and Top Rank make fights. Just like at first Golden Boy was banned from HBO once Haymon was removed HBO has no problem working with Golden Boy. Funny how that works right? The fact that all these en****** can get along and play nice when Haymon isn't involved is not an accident.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    That's why there are purse bids-in case deals can not be negotiated.

                    The only bridge burned is HBO and HBO burned that themselves. GBP, TR and Duva are HBO affiliated so they co sign.

                    Haymon has no problems with any other promoters.
                    Blatant lie and the Quillen fiasco proves it. He got problems with Roc Nation, Top Rank, GB, Duva, HBO ect

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                    • BazookaGomez
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      That's why there are purse bids-in case deals can not be negotiated.

                      The only bridge burned is HBO and HBO burned that themselves. GBP, TR and Duva are HBO affiliated so they co sign.

                      Haymon has no problems with any other promoters.
                      As I said it doesn't matter who did it or for what reason, fact is, HBO has many major promoters on their side, him being seperated for whatever reason be it HBO's doing or his own is costing us big time. And nobody wants to deal with that guy so purse bids don't help the issue.

                      If it's choosing between HBO and Haymon, give me the former any time, the lesser of the two evils.

                      Not to mention he even has problems with Roc Nation and is creating further rift with his new belts, let's face it, the guy is not good for the sport, period.

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