Comments Thread For: Ortiz-Stiverne is Close For Golovkin-Lemieux HBO PPV
				
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I have to disagree that they are fringe - this is a championship level fight (in todays HW). Ortiz is the sort of opponent Wilder should be taking on - Stiverne made excuses after he lost, but here he is acting more like a winner than Wilder is.Comment
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They both have something to prove in this fight.
Stiverne...that he is still a contender and was just dehydrated against Wilder.
Ortiz...Trying to erase the past. A loss for him will look bad. A win for him will look good.Comment
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As the main event for a paper championship yes. Not that impressive when you beat this guy for your "championship". The criticsm was more that he even had a belt in the first place and acting like beating him made Wilder an elite fighter. But as just a step up fight for young fighter to see where he is at in his development this is a great under card fight.Comment
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AAHHHH I see...so...As the main event for a paper championship yes. Not that impressive when you beat this guy for your "championship". The criticsm was more that he even had a belt in the first place and acting like beating him made Wilder an elite fighter. But as just a step up fight for young fighter to see where he is at in his development this is a great under card fight.
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we don't even who gonzalez is fighting yet wtf are you talking about? this is 100 times better than berto vs gayweather jr chump and you know it.the only tard here is you.Comment
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Ortiz hasn't beaten anyone remotely dangerous. He has a lot to prove. I don't know where people get the idea he is some serious threat. Long amateur career but he's 36 & stiverne is a huge step up. At least stiverne has beat austin & arreola twice. He also fought wilder & lost. This will either be ortiz coming out party or stiverne's reentry into the title picture. The loser is probably finishedComment
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Agreed I see both as naturalised contenders, fringe is guys like Ustinov, Dimitrenko and Thompson.Comment
 
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