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  • Ravens Fan
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    #141
    My issue with PBC is I truly believe they want to model themselves as the boxing version of the UFC. Therefore they will eventually take their fights to PPV on a monthly basis just as the UFC does. If not how else will they be able to survive spending all the money that they have on mismatches? And if that is the case I hope they fail because I sure as hell don't want to be paying PPV prices to see fights that should be on HBO or Showtime, and by the way I won't be buying them. I also don't care for someone flooding the market with crap fights. I would much rather see half as many decent fights then twice as many that suck.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #142
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      they hit over a mil in views... not bad really.
      It's on ESPN, 100 million subscribers. HBO has 30 million. If the ratio was the same it should have gotten a 3.0 to 4.0 rating which is a great rating. That's what NBA regular season games get.

      1.0 is terrible and it lost to an MMA card prelim. I understand why it didn't do more, it's still disappointing.

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      • Nightfall
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        #143
        Al haymon will never let boxing die

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          #144
          Originally posted by bigjavi973
          I have no idea what that is
          "Ink Master" is a tattoo competition/reality show, it's a seasonal show.

          As for Trout/Hernandez, can't say I'm excited. What else will be on the card?

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            #145
            So who's paying who in this deal?

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              #146
              Al Haymon is doing a nice job setting up a platform for up and coming fighters..I just don't see how this is going to work long-term or grow into anything more than it is now... Haymon is overpaying fighters for fights nobody really cares about...

              Garcia v. Malignaggi did about 1 million viewers on ESPN...which about what it would have done on Showtime... Ok, so I believe some of the NBC fights did like 3 mil..so NBC..will bump up the ratings but here's the problem... 3 mil for a boxing fight might be amazing if compared to HBO... but compared to other shows/programs on free TV... it's nothing to write home about... seems to me that you really need to put big time fights on free tv for this model to work... Floyd v. Berto on CBS..would have worked...

              But that's the thing..the managers/boxers are greedy... Haymon is a manager working on a percentage off the fighters... so he's going to try to get them the highest purse..which means Danny Garcia is going to make over a million for a BS fight that shouldn't have happened but the ratings aren't anything to write home about especially on ESPN... it was 1/3rd less than the ratings Garcia had on NBC...

              In other words, Haymon's own greed will be the downfall for the PBC...because Garcia making over a mil to fight Paulie and Floyd making $32 mil + PPV to fight Berto keeps the sport marginalized to where a smaller group of people are paying more rather than focusing on growing the sport through adv. money...

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              • MisanthropicNY
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                #147
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                It's on ESPN, 100 million subscribers. HBO has 30 million. If the ratio was the same it should have gotten a 3.0 to 4.0 rating which is a great rating. That's what NBA regular season games get.

                1.0 is terrible and it lost to an MMA card prelim. I understand why it didn't do more, it's still disappointing.
                I just said it got the same rating it would have gotten on Showtime..so why are *****s who love Haymon because they think they are supposed to trying to spin it into something amazing for the sport?

                Haymon is the worst thing for the sport...he gets the fighters too much money...Haymon is good for his fighters but not he sport and quality of boxing overall and long-term

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                  My issue with PBC is I truly believe they want to model themselves as the boxing version of the UFC. Therefore they will eventually take their fights to PPV on a monthly basis just as the UFC does. If not how else will they be able to survive spending all the money that they have on mismatches? And if that is the case I hope they fail because I sure as hell don't want to be paying PPV prices to see fights that should be on HBO or Showtime, and by the way I won't be buying them. I also don't care for someone flooding the market with crap fights. I would much rather see half as many decent fights then twice as many that suck.
                  That's quite an assumption. I don't think that would be the plan. The pay-per-view model, like premium cable, is dated. Will there be some PPV's? Sure. But I don't thinking moving back to something they're trying to move away from is the plan.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                    I just said it got the same rating it would have gotten on Showtime..so why are *****s who love Haymon because they think they are supposed to trying to spin it into something amazing for the sport?

                    Haymon is the worst thing for the sport...he gets the fighters too much money...Haymon is good for his fighters but not he sport and quality of boxing overall and long-term
                    So, how much money should fighters be paid? Who, exactly, should profit from a boxing match?

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      PBC has an agreement with several channels. AL could have cross-channel advertising, ie a commercial on ESPN about an upcoming fight on NBC and vice versa.



                      Advertising is part of the cost of doing business. Simply having a product without sufficient advertising is pointless, because many will not even know about it. Remember, I'm talking about casuals, who by definition will not go out of their way to find something that they are only moderately interested in. If Al wants to appeal to the casuals, he'll have to go get them.
                      One could argue that the act of broadcasting multiple, live boxing matches on multiple network and sports channels/platforms on multiple days and at various times of those days represents an helluva effort to 'go get them'.

                      YMMV.

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