Comments Thread For: Thurman Says Mayweather is Using Spence as a Pawn

[richardt]

I know you did.

I disagreed, and I stated why.

Thurman has done nothing to deserve that fight, he stepped up once against Guerrero, then he stepped down immediately before heading toward a September opportunity with Mayweather... he stepped up One-Time, thats it!

I dont know how you can call that deserving ?



Thurman stepped up ONE-TIME, thats it.

He has not worked his way anywhere.

Thirman is not a top 5 welter based on Guerrero, no way.

And he avoided a tough fight heading toward a September opportunity with Mayweather, just like all the rest of them.

These are the fights that needed to happen before you can tell me that any particular welter deserves a Mayweather payday.

Brook / Bradley
Bradley / Thurman
Khan / Thurman
Bradley / Porter
Brook / Thurman
Khan / Porter
Brook / Khan
Thurman / Porter
Khan / Bradley

Mayweather should break bread with Lara or Cotto.

I actually agree that Golovkin at 154 is a silly notion, but it has been mentioned..... Golovkin would be dead in the water, Lara would be more of a challenge.

Thurman is a top 5 welterweight he has earned that by winning and winning and winning and fight whoever they put in front of him. It is not Thurman's fault that fighters like Maidana ducked him. He would provide as much of a challenge as any fighter at 147. But if Floyd is retiring, bet on Thurman fighting for the top spot.

Even Guerrero initially turned down a fight and Porter declined as well as an at the time viable Mallinaggi. He has been trying to get higher ranked fighters to fight him for two years. All he does is fight who will fight him and keeps on winning.

FYI, Thurman didn't avoid any top fighters. And he can say yes all he wants but his management, like all fighters managements pick who he fights from a selection of opponents who are willing to fight him. Ask any boxing insider, a fighter signs the contract which allows his management to pick who he fights and a fighter has to abide by the contract.

That's why you always hear a fighter say whoever my management picks is who I fight. Just ask One Punch Productions, a promoter who visits this site. Only guys like Floyd and Wlad can actually 100% pick who they fight. The rest are controlled by management.

[richardt]

Apparently at least 300 people agree with me on who Mayweather should fight next. I rest my case. END OF THREAD:

Amir Khan 9.45% (602 votes)
Keith Thurman 6.07% (387 votes)
Tim Bradley 3.34% (213 votes)
Kell Brook 6.79% (433 votes)
Shawn Porter 0.56% (36 votes)
Andre Berto 0.83% (53 votes)
Danny Garcia 1.33% (85 votes)
Lucas Matthysse 1.18% (75 votes)
Terence Crawford 2.04% (130 votes)
Gennady Golovkin 61.02% (3,889 votes)
Erislandy Lara 2.02% (129 votes)
Miguel Cotto 2.98% (190 votes)

[aboutfkntime]

Apparently at least 600 people agree with me on who Mayweather should fight next. I rest my case. END OF THREAD:

Amir Khan 9.45% (602 votes)
Keith Thurman 6.07% (387 votes)
Tim Bradley 3.34% (213 votes)
Kell Brook 6.79% (433 votes)
Shawn Porter 0.56% (36 votes)
Andre Berto 0.83% (53 votes)
Danny Garcia 1.33% (85 votes)
Lucas Matthysse 1.18% (75 votes)
Terence Crawford 2.04% (130 votes)
Gennady Golovkin 61.02% (3,889 votes)
Erislandy Lara 2.02% (129 votes)
Miguel Cotto 2.98% (190 votes)

Do you even read what you post ?

30,000,000 ******s spent 5 years stating that Mayweather was scared of Pacquiao.

Most of those same asshats tried to say that Maidana deserved a rematch.

Actually, most of those asshats stated that Maidana won, and that Mayweather would never rematch him

As a result of that buffoonery, I had to watch Maidana II.

Not interested in what the casuals/idiots have to say.

BTW, read your own post..... nobody is saying that Thurman deserves a Mayweather payday..... they all picked Hypekin lol.

Hypekin/Brook/Khan are all more popular with the idiots, oops I mean casuals.

I know that Keith " I stepped up One-Time " Thurman has only one noteworthy scalp, and he intentionally avoided a risky fight heading toward September, just like the rest of them..... so I guess you and I have differing standards and differing expectations.

Mayweather is not Pacquiao, he should be held to higher standards.

Jeez dude, are you trying to tell me you think Thurman would be competitive ?

[aboutfkntime]

So, Thurman has worked his way up the ladder.....

WTF ?

..... and he is now prepared for Floyd Mayweather.

Thurman has undertaken preparations to face the best fighter on the planet.

And he did it by fighting Guerrero and then Collazo.

I would just about say that Berto is more deserving.

Not quite, but just about.

Thurman would be a shht opponent, which is why he wasn't selected.

Thurman would get exposed, and would be badly outclassed.

Also, not convinced that enough casuals even know who Thurman is.

According to richards post above, even Brook is more popular than Thurman.

Thurman would be a shht opponent, just like Berto.

[aboutfkntime]

I will never understand how you guys can rate fighters who are technically not much more than a prospect.

Thurman is at best, a mid-level contender.

There are a whole pile of contenders that Thurman hasnt fought yet.

He hasnt actually fought any of them.

And yet, somehow..... he is deserving/ready for Mayweather ?

Absurd !

[richardt]

Do you even read what you post ?

30,000,000 ******s spent 5 years stating that Mayweather was scared of Pacquiao.

Most of those same asshats tried to say that Maidana deserved a rematch.

Actually, most of those asshats stated that Maidana won, and that Mayweather would never rematch him

As a result of that buffoonery, I had to watch Maidana II.

Not interested in what the casuals/idiots have to say.

BTW, read your own post..... nobody is saying that Thurman deserves a Mayweather payday..... they all picked Hypekin lol.

Hypekin/Brook/Khan are all more popular with the idiots, oops I mean casuals.

I know that Keith " I stepped up One-Time " Thurman has only one noteworthy scalp, and he intentionally avoided a risky fight heading toward September, just like the rest of them..... so I guess you and I have differing standards and differing expectations.

Mayweather is not Pacquiao, he should be held to higher standards.

Jeez dude, are you trying to tell me you think Thurman would be competitive ?

Now you've gone full blown ******! READ the poll! Thurman is in the top 3 of welterweights on the poll! And you just assumed that a poll about who Floyd should fight has any connection whatsoever to what people thought about Maidana and Pac which is what is ABSURD! I could care less if you think Thurman deserves a shot or not. Hundreds of people agree regarding Thurman and on any poll anywhere, Thurman is a top fighter 147 pound fighter who would be among the favorites to fight Mayweather. You can go spastic and neurotic over it all you want, not everyone agrees with you. Live with it. It is what it is.

And as to all those fans who said Floyd was ducking Pac?? I'll take them any day over those mental midget Mayweather fans who insulted Pac for years about Catchweights and then feebly tried to justify Floyd doing the same thing and worse!!! And your Pac fans claiming Floyd ducked Pac has nothing to do with people picking from a selection of fighters who should fight Floyd next. Those are two entirely different stances and fan bases.

[aboutfkntime]

Now you've gone full blown ******! READ the poll! Thurman is in the top 3 of welterweights on the poll! And you just assumed that a poll about who Floyd should fight has any connection whatsoever to what people thought about Maidana and Pac which is what is ABSURD!

I assumed nothing !

The opinions of casual fans (asshats) have proven to be rubbish on numerous occasions..... so I do not rely on them for accurate information.

And I provided a great example why.

You whipped out the results of some internet poll, and then trumpeted it as the truth..... even though the poll that you refered to listed Golovkin/Khan/Brook ahead of Thurman.

Stop comparing turds, then telling me that the biggest one must be yummy.

I will leave you with one other thought, as you obviously missed it.....

Kell Brook has only fought one top guy, Porter, thats it...... and yet more people picked Kell Brook (a brit) than picked Thurman

If you are presenting that popularty poll as proof of anything, then it proves that even a relatively unknown brit has generated more interest than Thurman.

So, 300 ******s like Thurman, so fkn what ?

I could care less if you think Thurman deserves a shot or not. Hundreds of people agree regarding Thurman and on any poll anywhere, Thurman is a top fighter 147 pound fighter who would be among the favorites to fight Mayweather. You can go spastic and neurotic over it all you want, not everyone agrees with you. Live with it. It is what it is.

Calm down, and get a grip !

1) are you trying to tell me that you think Thurman would be competitive ?

Go on, say it, I dare you...... so that we can all see where you're at.

If not, then STFU, and go buy your Berto ticket

2) Explain to me why you think Brook got more votes than Thurman ?

I cant fkn wait to hear your answer to that question.

3) you guys who praise unproven fighters as superstars are a car-crash waiting to happen. If Thurman gets exposed, and you have no idea what level Thurman is really on, then you will never live it down..... EVER !

You will be always be the guy who believed in {insert name here}.

Case in point, Matthyse..... ALL those guys who stated that Matthyse was this avoided killer who was about to level Garcia EASILY and then take over 140, dont appear that knowledgable to me right now.

You should wait til Thurman steps up and actually establishes himself as a top fighter..... I can understanding liking/supporting him but I cant understand you saying that Thurman is ready for Mayweather, or that he earned that fight by beating Guerrero..... because neither of those things are true.

Also, of the 7 top welters..... I would only favor Thurman over 1 of them.

Even Khan is a 50/50 fight imho.

And as to all those fans who said Floyd was ducking Pac?? I'll take them any day over those mental midget Mayweather fans who insulted Pac for years about Catchweights and then feebly tried to justify Floyd doing the same thing and worse!!! And your Pac fans claiming Floyd ducked Pac has nothing to do with people picking from a selection of fighters who should fight Floyd next. Those are two entirely different stances and fan bases.

Pacstains / casual fans..... all the same to me.

[richardt]

I assumed nothing !

The opinions of casual fans (asshats) have proven to be rubbish on numerous occasions..... so I do not rely on them for accurate information.

And I provided a great example why.

You whipped out the results of some internet poll, and then trumpeted it as the truth..... even though the poll that you refered to listed Golovkin/Khan/Brook ahead of Thurman.

Stop comparing turds, then telling me that the biggest one must be yummy.

I will leave you with one other thought, as you obviously missed it.....

Kell Brook has only fought one top guy, Porter, thats it...... and yet more people picked Kell Brook (a brit) than picked Thurman

If you are presenting that popularty poll as proof of anything, then it proves that even a relatively unknown brit has generated more interest than Thurman.

So, 300 ******s like Thurman, so fkn what ?



Calm down, and get a grip !

1) are you trying to tell me that you think Thurman would be competitive ?

Go on, say it, I dare you...... so that we can all see where you're at.

If not, then STFU, and go buy your Berto ticket

2) Explain to me why you think Brook got more votes than Thurman ?

I cant fkn wait to hear your answer to that question.

3) you guys who praise unproven fighters as superstars are a car-crash waiting to happen. If Thurman gets exposed, and you have no idea what level Thurman is really on, then you will never live it down..... EVER !

You will be always be the guy who believed in {insert name here}.

Case in point, Matthyse..... ALL those guys who stated that Matthyse was this avoided killer who was about to level Garcia EASILY and then take over 140, dont appear that knowledgable to me right now.

You should wait til Thurman steps up and actually establishes himself as a top fighter..... I can understanding liking/supporting him but I cant understand you saying that Thurman is ready for Mayweather, or that he earned that fight by beating Guerrero..... because neither of those things are true.

Also, of the 7 top welters..... I would only favor Thurman over 1 of them.

Even Khan is a 50/50 fight imho.



Pacstains / casual fans..... all the same to me.

It takes a complete idiot to assume that people behind a poll are automatically casual fans when you don't know what the gamut of knowledge is on the other side of that poll. Oh, and thanks for restating my point. I said Thurman was one of the top choices for a Mayweather fight and that stands. In fact, he is the top 3 welterweight as I mentioned. And Guerrero got a shot beating a guy in Berto that Ortiz beat and Berto was stopped by Jose Luis who Thurman stopped and now Berto got a shot. I know DAMN WELL if Mayweather had signed to fight Thurman YOU WOULD NOT be putting on a hissy fit like you are. And I have NO PROBLEM with Brook getting more votes than Thurman so for you to assume I did, that's your neurosis. Thurman is a top three guy, and many agree. Take Prozac if that is an issue for you.

[aboutfkntime]

It takes a complete idiot to assume that people behind a poll are automatically casual fans when you don't know what the gamut of knowledge is on the other side of that poll. Oh, and thanks for restating my point. I said Thurman was one of the top choices for a Mayweather fight and that stands. In fact, he is the top 3 welterweight as I mentioned. And Guerrero got a shot beating a guy in Berto that Ortiz beat and Berto was stopped by Jose Luis who Thurman stopped and now Berto got a shot. I know DAMN WELL if Mayweather had signed to fight Thurman YOU WOULD NOT be putting on a hissy fit like you are. And I have NO PROBLEM with Brook getting more votes than Thurman so for you to assume I did, that's your neurosis. Thurman is a top three guy, and many agree. Take Prozac if that is an issue for you.

Nah, I would call it a cherry-pick, just like I'm saying about Berto.

Are you trying to tell me that you think Thurman would be competitive ?

If not, then why are you insisting that he is a top opponent and deserving ?

If so, then spend a long time explaining why/how.

Explain to me why you think that Kell Brook - a relatively unknown brit - got more votes than Thurman ?

And tell me, what do you think of Mayweathers win over Canelo ?

How do you rate it ?

Also, are you trying to insinuate that Mayweather is ducking Thurman ?

I admit that you are right about the casual fans.

6% of the respondants picked Thurman.

6%

So, MOST casual fans werent that ****** !

Congratulations on being one of the 6%.

[richardt]

Nah, I would call it a cherry-pick, just like I'm saying about Berto.

Are you trying to tell me that you think Thurman would be competitive ?

If not, then why are you insisting that he is a top opponent and deserving ?

If so, then spend a long time explaining why/how.

Explain to me why you think that Kell Brook - a relatively unknown brit - got more votes than Thurman ?

And tell me, what do you think of Mayweathers win over Canelo ?

How do you rate it ?

Also, are you trying to insinuate that Mayweather is ducking Thurman ?

I admit that you are right about the casual fans.

6% of the respondants picked Thurman.

6%

So, MOST casual fans werent that ****** !

Congratulations on being one of the 6%.

Congratulations on spewing more lame crap. I already told you I have no issue with anyone saying Brook is more deserving. I'm not going to say it again for the third time. And I never said Thurman would or would not be competitive. Whether he would be competitive or not is as subjective as any other top welterweight being competitive with Mayweather. And I never said Mayweather was ducking Thurman. Dude, your reading comprehension is borderline ******ed. And you missed the point about 6% picking Thurman. That was from a long list. And in that list they still have Thurman one of the 3 top picks for Mayweather to defend against. Damn your neurosis is glaring.