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  • Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
    someone actually wants to watch mayweather-lara?
    If it means Floyd will have a challenging fight, then yeah.

    Besides, I can't remember the last time Floyd fought against another pure boxer. It'd be interesting to see how it will turn out because it's not an easy fight to call.

    Originally posted by tiliheels View Post
    im blastin him for ducking and dogding every other fight out there..they told him to got to 154 to get a good fight he slithered out..they told him and porter to fight..they slithered out...they said fight spence..he slithered out...

    THIS IS A TREND WITH ALL THE YOUNG WW'S

    sit around begging floyd who has bigger fish or has the right to take an easy fight after unifying titles in 3 of his last 4 bout with canelo, pac, and chino...all world level..
    Thurman never ducked or dodged anybody. Just because they told him to go to 154, he'd ducking? That's like saying Mayweather is ducking Triple G.

    Also, no, Thurman and Porter didn't "slither out". They wanted to fight each other last year but Porter was order to fight his mandatory (Kell Brook).
    Last edited by Mr. Punch-Out!!; 08-03-2015, 09:29 PM.

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    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      I think you missed the point.

      NOBODY has come even close to EARNING a Mayweather fight.

      I dont care if Thurman is the best of a bad bunch, arguing that he deserves a Mayweather payday is weak. Picking the best welter from the current crop is a turd polishing contest.

      It is pointless to argue one underwhelming resume' against another.... nobody made the effort to sign two good back-to-back fights heading toward September. Nobody wanted it, so why give one of those guys a payday by default when clearly nobody did what they had to do to earn that fight?



      Well obviously, that is an absolute no-brainer.



      He may as well to be honest, there is a massive gulf between Mayweather and the next best welter. Having two divisions on lock does give Mayweather some options, and personally I would prefer Lara/Cotto/GGG, in that order.

      All are better than Thurman, who would simply be outclassed.

      It doesn't matter if Mayweather would beat those three fighters, because he will sure as hell beat Thurman thats for sure. Not interested in watching an undeserving contender get outclassed



      Keith " only stepped up to the world stage One-Time " Thurman.

      One-Time, is not enough.

      Two good back-to-back wins is not a huge ask from an apparent worldbeater.
      Again, you missed my point. The only thing I said was Thurman is one of the top 3 fighters that deserve the shot. And Mayweather is not going to fight Lara or GGG and no way does Lara vs Floyd get maid and Floyd is not going to fight GGG, period, even if he fights 5 more fights. And another thing, at 147, any fighter who has worked his way to the top deserves a shot regardless of the gap in talent between Floyd and the rest. Otherwise, just put Floyd in a plastic cast and put him in some museum to be on display, rather than defend his title.
      Last edited by richardt; 08-03-2015, 10:00 PM.

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      • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        richard, Mayweather is obviously not selecting a challenging opponent in Berto.

        Mayweather is selecting a retirement opponent, in Berto.

        If Mayweather decides to select a challenge, it wont be Thurman thats for sure.

        Lara/Cotto/Canelo/Golovkin at 154, and Bradley/Pacquiao/Khan/Brook at 147 are all bigger and better fights than Thurman.

        Tell me how Thurman would " challenge " Mayweather ?

        Tell me why Keith " only stepped up One-Time " Thurman is deserving?..... especially over Bradley and Khan.
        I never said Thurman was more deserving than Bradley and Khan, I said he was one of the top 3. Lara, Cotto, Canelo, and GGG are not welterwieghts and Floyd did not indicate he was going to fight outside of 147. We may as well throw Andre Ward and Kovalev and Wlad in that case. If Floyd continues on, it is doubtful he fights over his weight.

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        • And the funniest thing of all, if Mayweather had picked Thurman, none of Mayweather fans who launched all these complaints on this thread would have said a single negative thing about Mayweather's choice.

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          • Originally posted by richardt View Post
            And the funniest thing of all, if Mayweather had picked Thurman, none of Mayweather fans who launched all these complaints on this thread would have said a single negative thing about Mayweather's choice.
            I would.

            Many of the guys that Thurman beat are on the decline (Guerrero, Collazo) or fighters that not many have heard of (Bundu, Zaveck). Chaves is the only one we could point to as a good win for Thurman.

            Again, he complains about Spence calling him out but he fought someone who wasn't in the top 30 in the division in Collazo.

            Mayweather's last "fight" was against Pacquiao as that was the one fight that many thought would never happen and the fighter that Floyd would never face. Now that the fight has been done and is over with, he really has fulfilled all he needed to with MGM Grand/CBS/Showtime with a surplus most likely. That's why September 12th seems to be a "throw away" fight.

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            • Originally posted by richardt View Post
              And the funniest thing of all, if Mayweather had picked Thurman, none of Mayweather fans who launched all these complaints on this thread would have said a single negative thing about Mayweather's choice.
              I reckon Brook is more deserving than Thurman .

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              • Originally posted by richardt View Post
                Again, you missed my point. The only thing I said was Thurman is one of the top 3 fighters that deserve the shot.
                I know you did.

                I disagreed, and I stated why.

                Thurman has done nothing to deserve that fight, he stepped up once against Guerrero, then he stepped down immediately before heading toward a September opportunity with Mayweather... he stepped up One-Time, thats it!

                I dont know how you can call that deserving ?

                Originally posted by richardt View Post
                And another thing, at 147, any fighter who has worked his way to the top deserves a shot regardless of the gap in talent between Floyd and the rest. Otherwise, just put Floyd in a plastic cast and put him in some museum to be on display, rather than defend his title.
                Thurman stepped up ONE-TIME, thats it.

                He has not worked his way anywhere.

                Thirman is not a top 5 welter based on Guerrero, no way.

                And he avoided a tough fight heading toward a September opportunity with Mayweather, just like all the rest of them.

                These are the fights that needed to happen before you can tell me that any particular welter deserves a Mayweather payday.

                Brook / Bradley
                Bradley / Thurman
                Khan / Thurman
                Bradley / Porter
                Brook / Thurman
                Khan / Porter
                Brook / Khan
                Thurman / Porter
                Khan / Bradley

                Mayweather should break bread with Lara or Cotto.

                I actually agree that Golovkin at 154 is a silly notion, but it has been mentioned..... Golovkin would be dead in the water, Lara would be more of a challenge.

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                • Originally posted by richardt View Post
                  And the funniest thing of all, if Mayweather had picked Thurman, none of Mayweather fans who launched all these complaints on this thread would have said a single negative thing about Mayweather's choice.
                  I would be calling him a cherry-picker.

                  Thurman would be ok for a retirement fight on free TV, but I wouldn't pay for it.

                  I have seen heaps of Mayweather fights, I am not really interested in watching a retirement fight or a PPV against an undeserving opponent who will just be outclassed.

                  A top fight sure, otherwise, I'm done.

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                  • Originally posted by JRB123 View Post
                    I would.

                    Many of the guys that Thurman beat are on the decline (Guerrero, Collazo) or fighters that not many have heard of (Bundu, Zaveck). Chaves is the only one we could point to as a good win for Thurman.

                    Again, he complains about Spence calling him out but he fought someone who wasn't in the top 30 in the division in Collazo.

                    Mayweather's last "fight" was against Pacquiao as that was the one fight that many thought would never happen and the fighter that Floyd would never face. Now that the fight has been done and is over with, he really has fulfilled all he needed to with MGM Grand/CBS/Showtime with a surplus most likely. That's why September 12th seems to be a "throw away" fight.
                    Yep, nobody will ever convince me that Thurman is deserving of a Mayweather payday, or that he has earned that fight.

                    And I also agree with the bold, I cant get up for a retirement fight.

                    I'm done.

                    Legendary fighter, nothing left to prove.

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                    • Who cares about Spence and Mayweather at this point? Thurman can either just ignore them or start stepping up his competition and stop fighting Collazo- type opponents.

                      Alexander would have been a meaningful step-up fight for him. He fought 40 yr old Bundu, instead.

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