Is Haymon actually making 'PBC' titles?

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  • techliam
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    #1

    Is Haymon actually making 'PBC' titles?

    I've heard a lot of talk about potential PBC titles, just to add another worthless title onto the ****heap

    But i've not heard or seen anything concrete about them.

    I don't really want to accuse Haymon of cluttering up the sport with further garbage titles, under the pretence of a 'revolution on free tv', if he's not actually planning on making them.

    Does anyone know anything about Haymon's plans? If not, where has the idea of 'PBC' titles come from?

    Su****ions arose when Haymon totally disregarded Thurman's title (which isn't even a major world title), yet they are milking the hell out Wilder's paper belt, calling him the HW World Champion
  • AddiX
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    #2
    God I hope not, could you imagine how bad the mandatorys Would be?

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    • R_Walken
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      #3
      Might as well couldn't be any less credible then the WBO

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      • Barcham
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        #4
        There was a big article on the subject in the Journal de Montreal newspaper before the Stevenson-Bika fight where they had a lot of details about it. The original article is no longer available on the net unless you are a subscriber to the site but there is a Google translation of it on Boxrec.

        I've copied the translation here and cleaned it up a bit so that it is a little clearer to read.


        http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=190431

        PBC belts are in production

        QUEBEC | Over the last few months, businessman Al Haymon has started a revolution in boxing through agreements with several American television networks. However, it does not stop there.

        The next stage of its five-year plan is the implementation of a belt in all categories and these would be in play only on First Boxing Champions cards (PBC).

        This is a model that would have some similarities to that which exists in the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), which has full control over its fighters and clashes.

        In recent days, members of Haymon's entourage, which are currently present in Quebec were very discreet about it. However, according to what Le Journal de Montreal has learned, the project is well under way.

        The PBC belts are in production at a company in England. They should be ready in a few weeks, according to several sources, but it is not yet known when they will make their official appearance in the world of boxing.

        Until this new crown is launched, the WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF continue to work with Premier Boxing Champions (PBC), but for how long?

        "We're on the fence on this issue. We must wait to see how things will go, said a source who works for one of the sanctioning bodies when he was
        contacted by The Journal .

        "However, it will do something before that first fight for a title PBC announced. That could cause problems. "

        Many questions remain unanswered at the moment. For example, what value has this capacity compared to those that currently exist? It is not clear at this point, but we know that Haymon uses all the means at his disposal to have total control of boxing.

        The creation of a new belt is a step closer to his ultimate goal.

        Watching the televised galas and PBC website, we can see that the sanctioning bodies do not seem to be part of Haymon's final equation.

        And there are many examples. Saturday before the Stevenson-Bika shock, the representative of the WBC will not be allowed between the ropes. He will receive "Superman's" title belt then it will be placed on the ring apron.

        After the announcement of the winner it is the referee Michael Griffin who will place the title around the waist of Stevenson or Bika and not him. The only thing we know is that the announcer, Pierre Bernier, must present Stevenson as WBC world champion.

        Then when we consult the PBC website with great pomp we learn that a Quebecer will face Bika in a championship fight on CBS today. However, rummaging about this duel, it is never mentioned that Stevenson is the WBC king, The Ring or linear heavyweight. He is just a champion. Period.

        Sooner or later the WBC and other sanctioning bodies will react and that could make sparks. Even if the money were to go, do they want to play second fiddle behind PBC? It would be doubtful.

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        • Barcham
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          #5
          It seems that PBC may have put things on hold for the moment at least until the lawsuits are cleared up. Bringing out their own titles at this point would not work in their favour at all.

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          • -PBP-
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            #6
            Based on what his business model appears to be I think it is inevitable.

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            • SCEN3RY
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              #7
              It's not like Haymon doesn't already have major pull with the WBA and WBC, but man, I ****ing hope so. I hope there's a PBC regular belt, a super belt, a super duper one, a loyalty belt just for Peter Quillin. I hope PBC makes their own HOF too, one that's fair and just so guys like Peter and Santa Cruz can get a fair shake.

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              • Joey_Torreo
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                #8
                Originally posted by Barcham
                It seems that PBC may have put things on hold for the moment at least until the lawsuits are cleared up. Bringing out their own titles at this point would not work in their favour at all.
                Yeah defiantly. They're just waiting it out but you can count of them creating their own belts

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                • Mukuro
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                  #9
                  Makes sense. He is trying to re-brand boxing and seemingly trying to use the blueprint of UFC to do it. I actually think it is a good idea in theory. In theory, one could eliminate all the plurality of titles by bringing everything under one roof and having one champion. In reality though, this will serve as an excuse to run his own game and shut out everyone who doesn't play his game. All of his B level guys like Jacobs, Stevenson and Quillin will fight for the PBC title and avoid the real guys in the division.

                  His plan to use the UFC blueprint will not work because unlike Dana White, he is not building the sport alongside the company. Boxing is established with a long history, and he will only succeed in fracturing it.

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                  • Beercules
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SCEN3RY
                    It's not like Haymon doesn't already have major pull with the WBA and WBC, but man, I ****ing hope so. I hope there's a PBC regular belt, a super belt, a super duper one, a loyalty belt just for Peter Quillin. I hope PBC makes their own HOF too, one that's fair and just so guys like Peter and Santa Cruz can get a fair shake.

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