Does the Cruiserweight division really need to exist?

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  • Dindu_Nuffin
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    #11
    Originally posted by Norm Peterson
    It's basically where all the in shape heavyweights ply their trade at. Take Wlad out of the equation and these guys are all contending for titles at heavyweight (not including Shumenov & Flores, who both suck.)
    No. CW dobt weigh more than 210 at HW.

    Plenty of athletic in shape HW who are 220 plus.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #12
      Huck is a damn good fighter, Afolabi was fun for a while, Pablo seems skilled but hasn't done much, Cunningham was pretty good. So, in recent years the division has had some decent fighters. You're asking "is it necessary?" Well, purely in terms of why weight divisions are needed, cruiserweight is the most necessary division in boxing.

      From LHW to HW there is a 25lb gap, which is huge. The question is, are light middle and light welter necessary divisions?

      Having said that, I would like SMW to have an upper limit of 175lb and LHW to have an upper limit of 185 or 190lb. It would take one entire division out of an already crowded sport.

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        #13
        Originally posted by L33tboxingdewd
        Any real boxing fan knows CW is an awesome division with tons of great young talent and veterans. So many great fights to be made.

        But they aren't American doe!
        Cruiserweight is OK...

        ... Just because U.S. don't hold good enough fighters for the CW and HW divisions makes these irrelevant now?

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        • SlySlickSmooth
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          #14
          Cruiserweight is a joke?

          Last edited by SlySlickSmooth; 08-01-2015, 05:40 AM.

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            #15
            Drozd and Usyk are also great fighters, it's really just a matter of zero western marketing

            Others like Adamek and Haye were allowed to build up a resume at cruiser before being fed to the giants. Had they been lifelong heavyweights I doubt they would have made it that far without being spoiled by massive size-differential losses early on.

            When a glittery loud mouthed 140/147 prospect who might with some luck pan out to some day be average fights the boxing world stops to watch but fighters with far more talent in "fringe" divisions are ignored.
            Last edited by ////; 08-01-2015, 05:43 AM.

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              #16
              Yes, even now sometimes there are huge soze differences in hw, why the hell should we increase them...

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                #17
                You can't expect a fighter who weighs 185lbs to fight a fighter weighing 245, that's a 60lbs weight difference.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  Cruiserweight is OK...

                  ... Just because U.S. don't hold good enough fighters for the CW and HW divisions makes these irrelevant now?
                  I was being sacarstic. That's why people in here who don't know **** about boxing are dissing the CW division as irrelevant and boring.

                  Today's prototypical HW is 6.4 225 260. Bryant Jennings is 6.2. 220 @ 8ish percent body fat. Now take Cunningham who was a prototypical CW @ 6.3 200 sub 10 percent body fat is now at HW and can't even crack 210 on the scales.


                  Huck despite his caveman style and approach to pugilism is one of the top 3 CW. When he fought at HW I think he only weighed like 203.

                  So the comment about CW just being the division where in shape HW fight is pure rubbish and shows a huge lack of knowledge and appreciation of the concept of weight divisions.


                  Maybe 20 30 years ago the prototypical HW was only 200 to 215 but not now.

                  CW fills a very crucial gap...


                  Now here's some of the best at CW, who, stack up as one of the most competitive and ttalent - loaded divisions in boxing: lebedev huck drodz usyk afolabi mateuz...

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                    #19
                    The cruiserweight division often prepared fighters for the heavyweight division. You often see the long reigning champ move up to heavyweight. I believe it allows either Light Heavyweight fighters move up in a healthier manner and allows Cruiserweights Polish thier style and move up successfully...

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                      #20
                      Their has also been some great Cruiserweight champs who made the division interesting now and in the past.

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