Considering Kovalev killed someone in the ring do you find him distasteful?

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  • Weltschmerz
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    #41
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    "Some of my best friends are black" - common response to blatant racism.
    It isn't a fact that Kovalev is racist, it is an accusation made by you and others because of a couple of unlucky remarks/incidents. Take into consideration where he's coming from. He is still new to America and their oversensitiveness.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #42
      Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
      It isn't a fact that Kovalev is racist, it is an accusation made by you and others because of a couple of unlucky remarks/incidents. Take into consideration where he's coming from. He is still new to America and their oversensitiveness.
      Unlucky?

      Yes I do take into consideration where he's coming from. Russia. Racism is absolutely rife over there.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #43
        Originally posted by FeFist
        People are failing to understand the thread. Earl is not saying Kovalev is at fault for the death of Simakov; he is saying that, given his first hand experience with the horrors of boxing, he should show some decorum when speaking of the injuries he intends to inflict on his opponent.

        I am in agreement with Earl. Typically these tragedies have an adverse effect on fighters. I'm not saying that he should change his approach in the ring but I would expect the crudeness outside of the ring to take a hit.
        Yet he's a Wilder fan, someone who talked up hurting Stiverne.

        Kovalev is held to a different standard because he's champion or are people simply not used to a Russian with a chip on his shoulder? He could live in the past and let it take away from his aggression or move on from it like he has, which allowed him to become champion. Maybe that's it... some people don't want him as champ due to whatever personal reasons, so they'll find anything to criticize.

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        • Suckmedry
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          #44
          It baffles me how anyone could dislike Kovalev

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          • FeFist
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            #45
            Originally posted by Foreign Soil
            Yet he's a Wilder fan, someone who talked up hurting Stiverne.

            Kovalev is held to a different standard because he's champion or are people simply not used to a Russian with a chip on his shoulder? He could live in the past and let it take away from his aggression or move on from it like he has, which allowed him to become champion. Maybe that's it... some people don't want him as champ due to whatever personal reasons, so they'll find anything to criticize.
            He's held to a different standard because he has killed someone. It is not his fault that his opponent died but it does distinguish him from other fighters.

            When a fighter talks of the harm they are going to put on their opponent, they do so without the knowledge that their fists caused a man's death. I don't think it is particularly savoury but it is easy to see that they distance themselves from the possibility of death. When someone has killed someone in the ring, they know what their fists have done in the past so their words carry more weight.

            I am speaking openly and honestly on the matter. There's a reason why boxers who have killed their opponent typically become timid after the fact. Regardless of fault, human decency makes the guilt difficult to shake off. I'm actually happy that the experience didn't affect Kovalev's approach in the ring, but I'm not going to sit around and pretend his experience shouldn't have resulted in a bit more respect for the dangers of the sport.

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            • torosboxing75
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              #46
              Originally posted by Earl Hickey
              Obviously im not saying he should be blamed for it, but considering it happens, his interviews talking about seriously injuring people etc are in bad taste for me.

              Him and Stevenson... jeez 175 is like scumbag central right now

              Ward will teach these guys a lesson in humility
              To bad Ward doesn't have the confidence to try. He's more interested in teaching lessons to middleweights.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #47
                He didn't try to kill the guy, he just didn't care he did. This is Kovlev really.

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                • Bardock
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                  #48
                  Is it any coincidence that all the butthurt fanboys are mayweather/haymon fans?

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                  • b00g13man
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    I'm fairly sure it was an accident so I don't see why I would find him distasteful for that.

                    The fact that he's clearly a bit of a racist is more distasteful.
                    I was a massive fan of his until that incident. I'm kinda apathetic to his career now.

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                    • Mr. Philadel
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by nivek535
                      the ref killed that guy, not kovalev lol


                      jokes aside, I doubt Krusher meant to kill dude....he was obviously trying to kill Pascal though

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