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  • #61
    Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
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    That's insane. Those hardcore fans that golovkin has are all going to msg. It will probably be a sell out or very close to it. Ward vs anyone at the Barclays center doesn't sell out regardless of jayz's connections in New York.
    Willing to make a wager on that statement? (Speaking of actual money at the gate, since Team Golovkin is more than happy pushing out the $15 tickets and trumpet that as success).

    because, simply put, I don't see Golovkin being able to go through the New York radio circuit or complete the interviews interactions across the ESPN progams in enough conversational English to do much ticket moving, let alone seeing the famed "Mexican style" nonsense draw out the Boriqua fans.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by lefthook2daliva View Post
      He needs to relieve Stevenson of his belt and then him and The Krusher can get it on.
      Great call. I never thought of that.

      At SMW, I'd like him to rematch the abrahammer in Berlin.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Great call. I never thought of that.

        At SMW, I'd like him to rematch the abrahammer in Berlin.
        He'd easily win that but do you think he'd actually be willing to fight away from homeland?
        He comes across as a very arrogant big headed person, its the main reason I don't find myself liking him much.

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        • #64
          Poll added. I'm sure I missed some options.

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          • #65
            You only missed out Kovalev.

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            • #66
              i'd be content with him "unifying" his super wba with chudinov's regular wba. it would be a decent reintroduction to 168 lbs, and he did say that he wanted two tune-ups. after that, if groves beats jack and opts for abraham instead of degale, then i'd like to see roc nation swoop in for degale's ibf. he's the best scalp left at 168 lbs. ramirez is also a decent option, and, being a top rank/hbo fighter who primarily fights in the usa, it should be easier to get him in the ring than degale.

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              • #67
                team god is in a tough spot right now.

                they want to wait for golovkin to move up for a ppv, but they really shouldn't wait around for it.

                kovalev's ratings last night will give us an idea of how popular he is. that opponent was useless, and while the undercard was good, it wasn't what would be selling those tickets or getting those ratings primarily.

                the kovalev - ward fight will have to be on PPV. it sounds / looks like it's close to being there. i think these two will fight late next year on ppv.

                i don't think golovkin is going to fight ward at 168. ithink ward's best move is to fight a contender at 175, and eventually fight kovalev at 175 for all of those freaking marbles.


                the winner of ward - kovalev at 175 will be in teh discussion for the best p4p fighter in the world.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Willing to make a wager on that statement? (Speaking of actual money at the gate, since Team Golovkin is more than happy pushing out the $15 tickets and trumpet that as success).

                  because, simply put, I don't see Golovkin being able to go through the New York radio circuit or complete the interviews interactions across the ESPN progams in enough conversational English to do much ticket moving, let alone seeing the famed "Mexican style" nonsense draw out the Boriqua fans.
                  What are you talking about? Ward puts up free tickets and his people bellow what a strong showing they had for Smith, lol! Remember the 'Church Discount' he was offering for that fight aswell? Ward/Rodriguez bombed in Oakland - 4,158 with $277k gate.... Ward/Bika in Oakland bombed - 4,100, Ward/Abraham in Stub Hub bombed - 5,311, even Ward/Froch in AC bombed - 5,626.

                  If Golovkin had a caliber of opponent like Dawson, he'd have got double what Ward got for that fight. Hell, Ward/Dawson was on Cinco De Mayo weekend - a major time for boxing and they still did less in tv & attendance than Golovkin did vs Monroe.

                  Once upon a time Ward was a live draw - (Miranda @7,818, Kessler @10,277, Green @8,797), but paying fans caught on to how boring his fights could get. Since the Allen Green fight Ward's only ever sold more than 5,000 tix once and that was a hyped up fight vs Dawson.

                  Golovkin already sold over 7,800 tix in the summer vs Geale and Lemieux sold 6,500 vs Rosado - both in NYC. This fight will out sell the 7,611 for Ward/Dawson by atleast 1.5x.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    Willing to make a wager on that statement? (Speaking of actual money at the gate, since Team Golovkin is more than happy pushing out the $15 tickets and trumpet that as success).

                    because, simply put, I don't see Golovkin being able to go through the New York radio circuit or complete the interviews interactions across the ESPN progams in enough conversational English to do much ticket moving, let alone seeing the famed "Mexican style" nonsense draw out the Boriqua fans.
                    Ward would never sell out the Barclays,I honestly think it would be hard for Golovkin to do as well,but he'd definitely get closer than Ward.Coincidentally Danny Garcia had a million dollar gate there against Peterson.

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                    • #70
                      Why are Stevenson, Bika and Fonfara in the poll? Haymon/PBC fighters are unavailable to Roc Nation fighters if I know it right.
                      I don't know if this is true to Degale too or not because he is still promoted by Hearn.

                      If he stays in 168 then maybe a Degale fight would be the best for him, but if Groves beats Jack then Goves and Degale will fight each other I guess so then Arthur Abraham or Fedor Chudinoc would be the best opponents for him in 168. More likely Chudinov because he holds the paper version (regular) of Ward's belt so a clash between them would be relevant. I'm not really interested ina Ward vs Abraham II.

                      If he goes up he should fight Chilemba first because now, Pascal, Kovalev and all the Haymon fighters there (Beterbiev, Stevenson, Eleider Alvarez, Fonfara) are unavailable to him.
                      Chilemba, Yunieski Gonzalez, Mekhontsev, Braehmer or Sulivan Barrera would be good opponents for him next.
                      Last edited by HEND; 07-27-2015, 08:16 AM.

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