Comments Thread For: Golovkin on Andre Ward: I Want Him, 50-50 on Weight

[Najuk]

the contradiction is that he'll fight two other SMW at the full limit of 168 lbs...

but when it comes to Ward, who beat Froch & is hands down better than Chavez Jr... it has to be at 164 lbs...
even when he previously stated anyone from 154-168.

He picks Monroe Jr over Lara cuz Monore is "more known" than Lara.

I just don't get how you can't see that they are full of shit.

ok but explain me please why schould GGG fight Ward at 168 .Yes ,Ward , Froch and Chavez are boxers of 168 division, but they are all different boxers...
Or do you want to say that Ward , Chavez and Froch are of a same boxing level?

[Barcham]

I'm not sure that Ward beats the snot out of GGG, but your reasoning here is sound.

What isn't sound, and makes no sense to me, is the reasoning of Ward fans who say that we already know GGG is the best MW in the world, so he should move up and fight Ward immediately. No need to see him unify at 160, because we already know he beats everybody there.

But they also say they know Ward would school GGG, and GGG's fans know it too, which is why they don't want him to move up.

So knowing that GGG beats everybody at 160 means that those fights don't need to happen. But knowing Ward beats GGG at 168 means that, for them, it MUST happen. And it must happen NOW.

????????

So we should all compromise. GGG can go on his way and unify 160 and Ward should move up to fight Kovalev and get destroyed and retire to a fulltime commentator position on future BET broadcasts.

[Fetta]

Tune your reading comprehension a bit. I did not claim that you fit that mold, I stated that MOST GGG HATERS fit that mold. And I will stand by that. You are still being ignorant by bringing up points that have been explained and refuted dozens if not hundreds of times in the past. You are asking the same questions and expecting different answers. That is a sign of insanity if nothing else. The answers will not change. A Froch or Chavez Jr. fight would have been PPV at the time, Ward was not, is not, and for the foreseeable future will not be, a PPV event. There is less money in a Ward fight than there is in any MW unification fight for Golovkin.

Expecting any different answers to that is being foolish in not outright ****** or simply trolling for a reaction which I have now provided you and which you did not like. So stop being so ****ing ignorant and you will not be treated as such.

Don't get mad at me because you're in love with a man. Going into meeting when I get back I'm gonna school your old ass

[Barcham]

ok but explain me please why schould GGG fight Ward at 168 .Yes ,Ward , Froch and Chavez are boxers of 168 division, but they are all different boxers...
Or do you want to say that Ward , Chavez and Froch are of a same boxing level?

Well to be fair, we really don't know what level Ward is at these days. We do know that he can beat an overweight, out of shape, improperly trained, sloth of a man called Paul Smith at a CATCHWEIGHT of 172. But that is not saying much. We really need to see him in against a live body before making any determinations.

[Mr. Philadel]

Number one I'm not black and number two don't call me ignorant when you're going full-blown ignorant right now border lining on racial ignorance.

Is just a fighter he's not your boyfriend so calm down

whenever one their boyfriends are on trial they ALWAYS play the race card man....questioning someone's authenticity is now called HATING...these kids have a strange way of dealing with things

[GaryMSchneider]

What the hell does 50-50 weight mean? lol


I don't know anything about Ward's current weight situation, but 166, IMO, would be a more reasonable weight offer. Anyways, file this one along with Loma-Rigo under greats fights that can't be agreed upon on.

50-50 means GGG comes up four pounds and Ward comes down four pounds to 164. GGG is the drawing power and has a much bigger fan base. Ward couldn't even fill his own arena in the last fight against 'Tomato can Smith', who by the way, buckled Wards knees in the sixth. Ward has to suck it up and get in the gym or quit blowing smoke and move on.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

I do apply the same logic I use with others. A non-title fight at a catchweight is fine. Title fights at catchweights are not. Catchweight title fights between two fighters in the same division are an abomination and should be prohibited by all sanctioning bodies.

lol Barcham, you seem a bit perturbed today...If he says he will fight two other guys at 168 but not this one, its because of the level of competition. He's fighting cans and when its time to face an elite fighter, he's backing out and making excuses. If 168 is good enough against Froch and Chavez jr, whats the reason for side-steppin? In your opinion, why doesnt he extend the same challenge to Ward if it isnt about the level of competition. You've read all the booolshiat people say on here and I'm calling certain posters to task on all of the bs they've posted. Why doesnt it apply to this particular fighter?

[GaryMSchneider]

ok but explain me please why schould GGG fight Ward at 168 .Yes ,Ward , Froch and Chavez are boxers of 168 division, but they are all different boxers...
Or do you want to say that Ward , Chavez and Froch are of a same boxing level?

Chavez was a big draw when GGG wanted to fight him. Froch is a huge draw world wide. Ward couldn't even fill his own arena in the last fight against 'Tomato can Smith'. Ward has to meet GGG on his terms or get lost.

[Mr. Philadel]

50-50 means GGG comes up four pounds and Ward comes down four pounds to 164. GGG is the drawing power and has a much bigger fan base. Ward couldn't even fill his own arena in the last fight against 'Tomato can Smith', who by the way, buckled Wards knees in the sixth. Ward has to suck it up and get in the gym or quit blowing smoke and move on.

is this about fighting and beating relevant opponents or is this a popularity contest?!?...all I'm hearing is that Mister 164 is more popular....that's it!!

[Najuk]

Number one I'm not black and number two don't call me ignorant when you're going full-blown ignorant right now border lining on racial ignorance.

Is just a fighter he's not your boyfriend so calm down

actually you are ignorant right now because you dont want to face the truth. He is right, most of GGG haters are Mayweather's and Ward's fans(and since Cotto has mw belt his fans became GGG haters too)