Comments Thread For: Photos: Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury Go Face To Face

[yoshik]

I didn't compare Fury to Lennox, but Fury to Vitali, and Wlad to Lennox. But not as much to comment on quality (although I do rate Fury higher than most), but I was comparing it as a fight.

Here is how I see it..

Wlad is not ******, and although he said he didn't watch Fury, you bet he did. Maybe not as much as Fury studied Wlad, as Fury already showed he knows all details of Wlad's fights. First he mentioned Jennings fight and Wlad punching himself, than he was commenting on Wlad's arsenal - 1,2 punch, jab and left hook. So obviously Fury did his homework very well.

I recently re-watched Wlad-Sanders, Wlad-TT(1) and I was favoring Tyson in this fight. But then I re-watched Wlad-Peter(1), Wlad-TT(2) and Wlad-Wach and it made me think this fight is so unpredictable that I can only call it 50:50.

Wlad from Sanders fight was a different man. However, contrary what most think, that fight showed to me that Wlad has a very solid chin. He was up and down 4 times, from monstrous clean punches. I don't think anybody with the weak chin would be able to get up from that. But he was panicking, not having a clue how to defend when hurt. On top of that I remember how much problems TT gave him in the first fight. Wlad's jab was ineffective, southpaw/awkward style made it very difficult for Wlad to dominate how he usually does. So panicking and not knowing how to defend against big, awkward southpaw didn't sound good for Wlad...

But then I re-watched Peter(1). Although down multiple times, he wasn't panicking (although he looked exhausted at times). He wasn't able to hurt Peter until the last round still he was boxing great. This showed to me that somehow he rebuilt himself mentally (very important when you facing Fury). Since that fight he was hurt a few times and IMO every time he reacted extremely well (very atypical to pre-Sanders Wlad). Recently, when Wach connected clean on Wlad, he showed some great survival skills. He wasn't holding (as Wach is a bigger man), he didn't try to fight back (as in Sanders fight), but he covered up, waited for storm to end and used lateral movement. IMO some great stuff. Wlad-TT(2) showed to me that Wlad can be much more illusive when he needs to be. He dropped his typical style and he didn't rely on jab at all. He was leading with the power punches. IMO this might be very effective against southpaw(when he switches) Fury.

I think Fury will come in the orthodox stand trying to win the jab battle. That won't work as Wlad's jab is way superior. Than Fury will soon be switching to southpaw and this will cause Wlad some problems. Wlad won't be able to control the fight with his jab, but he will need to rely on left hook/straight right. Fury will most definitely try to bring the fight inside. Both men are very strong and I don't give significant advantage in this respect to none. So Wlad's leaning won't work, and Fury's physical imposing won't work. They will need to fight. Wlad will win some rounds due to his precision and Fury will win some rounds due to his awkwardness. The critical part of the fight IMO is wether Fury will be able to take and possibly get up from Wlad's power punch and on the other side will Wlad be able to keep up with the high tempo in rounds 8-12. I honestly have no idea.

Wlad didn't look very comfortable in the later rounds of Jennings fight and Fury never showed any slowing down in the later rounds even when he was blob of fat.

It's 50:50 for me and it might be the fight we will talk about for many years.

6 rounds, Fury gets KO'd. You are over thinking...

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it appears fury is doomed

we were really banking on that size difference but fury just has a few lbs of belly fat over klitschko

the fight will still have its interesting moments if fury stays in reasonable shape though... no doubt a must see

[yoshik]

Fury might not have faced an elite opponent at 6 foot 6 but Wlad has never faced anyone as skilled as Fury at 6 foot 9 either.

I'd also take the Cunningham fight with a pinch of salt - Fury is a lot more disciplined now than when he went in gung-ho giving up his reach.

Skilled? Fury? What???? He's a slow plodding, uncoordinated clown at best.

[yoshik]

I agree that Fury shouldn't be compared to Lennox, but he can be compared to 2003 Vitali Klitschko. I remeber people saying about Vitali back then what you guys are saying about Fury now, that he was an overrated robotic protected European fighter that only fought bums and quit on his stool against Chris Byrd. They said Lewis would knock him out in 2 or 3 rounds easily. I was telling people back then that if Lennox hit Vitali with his big right hand and Vitali was still there that he was going to be in a world of trouble because he wasn't going to be able to outbox him like he did all with all those smaller and or less skilled guys he was fighting. Vitali was bigger than Lewis, more athletic, had better stamina, and wasn't far away from him skill wise either. I see some of those characteristics in Fury, but again it comes down to what happens after he gets hit? Does he go down? Does he get on the bicycle like David Haye? Or does he make the same decision that Vitali made that night in 2003 that he decided he was going to stand up and fight? Hopefully its the latter and hopefully Tyson has better skin so we don't see another fluke win on cuts like 2003.

No. Just no.

[yoshik]

Tell me your joking.. FLUKE???? Did you watch that fight??? YES Vitali was doing brilliant early but in case you forgot Lewis started laying the hammer down and was hurting him, he rocked him with an uppercut towards the end of the round before the fight got stopped and everyone in the party I was watching the fight at was drooling in anticipation of the next round because the Great Klit looked like he was on the way to being crumbled.

Lewis took ALL Vitali had to offer and than returned the favours. I would not call that a fluke. The man fought well and overcame adversity to put his opponent in a position to fail.

No. Just no. Lennox got his ass kicked.

[rzagza]

Only a damn idiot, or a Brit, would think Fury has a shot in hell to win this fight. The odds being as low as they are (-450) is laughable. More proof that too many gamblers are f'n clueless morons.

[BOMB ZQUAD]

Only a damn idiot, or a Brit, would think Fury has a shot in hell to win this fight. The odds being as low as they are (-450) is laughable. More proof that too many gamblers are f'n clueless morons.

Pretty much sums it up.

Fury is going to taste the floor on the 24th

[Yaconcha]

i cant stand either of these people especially the ***** and im english!
first of all, he is a norvun *****, a manc and in english that means loser.
the klit has done well though with the pushing and holding and moving the opps around without ref intervention. i believe the klit is too fit, way faster and much to smart for the diddy coy from the norf. the foyt gets stopped with an easy early knockout by the sister. might even watch it....dunno yet...need a poo first then i will see.

[Yaconcha]

Only a damn idiot, or a Brit, would think Fury has a shot in hell to win this fight. The odds being as low as they are (-450) is laughable. More proof that too many gamblers are f'n clueless morons.

a brit...a BRIT? what are you a fackin yank a guess..how predictable with your "we think we know everything" talk..remember one thing, we ran the world long before you and it wasnt with the help of the ***** or king khunt now, in the words of the great british actor who is Alan Ford.......fack off.

[LacedUp]

I don't care if it's an inch, two or three. Or none for that matter. The height means very little when it's only 1-2 inches in difference. Though I will say, in the face to face video - Fury looked 3 inches taller than Wlad.

Regardless, don't care. What are we supposed to believe? Wlad can't fight someone his own size? please. We've seen it happen before, and he's been victorious every time he's fought someone big. Pianeta was like 6'5, Pulev 6'4½, Thompson 6'6 and Wach 6'8. He beat them all comprehensively.

So the height doesn't matter to me. However, I am intrigued by the reach advantage Fury has. And he has ridiculously long arms. 86" of reach compared to Wlad's 81".

Now, does Wlad not like to jab 25 times around and doesn't he take a step back after every single time to avoid a counter, or lean on his opponent? Yes he does. Effective vs people who are shorter and with shorter reach.

Fury is neither. Fury has a quick jab himself. More of a flicking jab where Wlad's is a pawing jab. Not until his opponent is actually dead on his feet does Wlad usually set up a proper 1-2 with force behind the jab. he usually paws it.

The jab exchange is intriguing me, and I think Wlad will be surprised. Pulev, who in my opinion has a far inferior jab to Tyson, hit him flush. I think Tyson can do the same.

I ultimately think Fury will move and jab mix it up on the outside. Whether or not that's enough against Wlad, we'll see.

If the Wlad from Jennings show up, Fury would win imo. But so many other Wlad's can show up and beat Fury.