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  • Hougigo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    Al Haymon is hurting the sport of boxing by preventing fights like Kovalev-Stevenson and Quillan-Golovkin.
    Meh, significance died down thanks to his inactivity.... also with Rumors of fighting De La Rosa, people just don't care for him.

    Now, if the other person standing across from him was decent people would... I'd still watch GGG obliterate him just for fun..

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    • Scipio2009
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      #22
      Originally posted by kiaba360
      Other than Adonis/Kov, what purse bids have happened during PBC's life-span? From now on, I don't think any Haymon fighter will be fighting on HBO, so I expect him (or the promoters he works with) to win every purse-bid. Povetkin/Wilder will be interesting if it goes to purse-bid because Povetkin seems to have a lot of money behind him.
      Lomachenko (Top Rank)-Russel Jr(Haymon)
      Degale (Matchroom)- Dirrell (Haymon)
      Stevenson (GYM/Haymon) - Kovalev (Main Events)

      likely, Wilder (Haymon) - Povetkin (Sauerlands??);
      Wilder getting a 75/25 split of the bid would make him pretty okay with traveling for a monster bid from an outside party.

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      • kiaba360
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        #23
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Lomachenko (Top Rank)-Russel Jr(Haymon)
        Degale (Matchroom)- Dirrell (Haymon)
        Stevenson (GYM/Haymon) - Kovalev (Main Events)

        likely, Wilder (Haymon) - Povetkin (Sauerlands??);
        Wilder getting a 75/25 split of the bid would make him pretty okay with traveling for a monster bid from an outside party.
        Loma/Russell happened a year before PBC's debut broadcast, when GBP was still working with Haymon. Haymon (Warriors Boxing) won the purse-bid for DeGale/Dirrell and DeGale recently made Haymon his advisor. Povetkin has been promoted by Aleksey Stashkov ("World Boxing") since the Klitschko fight, have no idea of his track record.

        There's a possibility that Haymon will have control of Kovalev's belts before the end of 2016.
        Last edited by kiaba360; 07-20-2015, 02:26 PM.

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        • PunchyPotorff
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          #24
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          Originally Posted by kiaba360 View Post
          This is just as much HBO's fault as it is Haymon's.

          Originally posted by turnedup
          I can't wait for you to explain that one lol. I don't see how that is in anyway HBO's fault. Especially the quillin one.
          HBO was part of the decision. Go research it.

          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          If Kov takes on his mandatories rather than fight Stevenson then he should be held accountable for depriving the fans of the fight we want.
          I still fail to see how this is Kov's fault. HBO and Duva were the main ones deciding to walk away from the ******man negotiations because they weren't going well. I'm of the opinion ******man and Company are just throwing up more smoke and mirrors to avoid Kov. Can't blame them really. Kov will destroy Stevenson's brand permanently. And the guy is old. But still, no reason to blame Kov for all this delay.

          Doubters will be abundant regarding Kov, but I still think when all the dust clears Kov will be top of the mountain. His only serious challenge will be Bieterbev IMO. And even that is a 50/50 fight tops. Bieterbev is dominating now, but I think with the first tough challenge vs a serious LHW we will see some limitations. Ward will be tricky, but no matter how much he runs he can be caught eventually. Even Froch clocked him solid a few times. And Jackson has Kov at much higher level as a boxer. We'll see. I doubt this will be a boring ride though.

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          • stuff jones
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            #25
            Originally posted by Freedom.
            Article here by Glen McCrory on Sergey Kovalev:

            http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport...ropean-9685103
            Someone should notify this writer that Kazakhstan isn't in Eastern Europe.

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            • joesaiditstrue
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              #26
              Originally posted by turnedup
              I can't wait for you to explain that one lol. I don't see how that is in anyway HBO's fault. Especially the quillin one.
              network exclusive contracts to fighters

              honestly this should be illegal if you ask me, i don't blame the fighter because this type of career can be short lived for any fighter so they should try to get that money as quickly as possible

              but network exclusive deals to fighters means the sport gets fragmented to a point where the best don't have to fight the best

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              • GMAN SUPREME
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                #27
                scumbag stevenson keeps ducking kovalev.al gaymon is a cancer to boxing.

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                • Ham Porter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  Pretty sure they barked and barked for a fight with Stevenson and when he came to the table they ran. They know better than to match him with good fighters.

                  Hopkins was the most skilled he fought and it would have been a meaningful victory had he not been 48 years old. There are fighter namely Dawson and Taylor who have beaten far superior versions of Hopkins. You cant give him that much credit for beating a guy that was so old he could only average 9 punches per round.

                  You won't see him fight Fonfara, Stevenson, Bieterbev, or Ward. You simply wont see it. He is the Manny Pacquiao of the LHW division.

                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  Who wants to take bets? Pascal wins by KO in the 4th. Who wants to take it?
                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  Pascal fought a much better version of Hopkins than Sergey did, a much much better version. Hopkins that Sergey fought laid against the ropes and threw 16 punches a round, 16 punches, what a tough fight.

                  Pascal is going to torch Sergey easily. He is way too fast and he has good power and movement. Kovalev has cement feet and doesn't understand the concept of defense.
                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  Pascal wins inside 7.

                  He has the edge in experience by far. He has been in with much better fighters .
                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  Can't wait for this fight. After Pascal beats the breaks off Kovalev hopefully he will go away.

                  Pascal has been in with far better and done more than well but Kovalev is hyped to high heaven for beating up silak? Cleverly? I don't even know the names of the other bums and AARP Hopkins in a side show fight.

                  Real Dork85 can barely contain his anger whenever the topic of Kovalev pops up.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                    somehow everyone gives hbo a pass when in reality they should of let their fighters enter purse bids. hbo is the problem always has been the problem
                    100%.

                    With how boxing works if its not in a fighters contract that they can do business elsewhere if the entity that holds the license to show their fights isn't capable of winning a purse bid in a mandatory situation or willing to enter a purse bid the fighter is ultimately the one getting ****ed over.

                    HBO & Kathy Duva have basically screwed Kovalev out of millions of dollars over this Stevenson issue due to their unwillingness to work with certain outside parties & as a boxing fan who's always pro-boxer first & foremost this is sad & disappointing.

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                    • Barcham
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mick Higgs
                      The only belt that matters @ World title level is the Ring Mag belt! Stevenson needs to glove up or retire!
                      The RING title lost it's relevance when they stopped handing it out in the '90s. When they re-introduced it, they ignored the championship lineage and became just another title with no more importance than any other. In fact as I was not following boxing very closely for around a decade after they discontinued their title, I was under the impression that it had returned only as a web award and not even a physical title belt as I cannot remember the last time I actually saw a fighter defend it in the ring. I was corrected on that recently. But it has lost the value and prestige that it used to carry.

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