Comments Thread For: Hearn on DeGale/Haymon, Matchroom Fighters Going PBC

[Fetta]

That's like saying besides my mom, my dad and my siblings all my family members get along with me. You just named about 80% of the promoters in the game that put on significant fights. And you also left out HBO and Roc Nation. HBO, Golden Boy, Top Rank, Roc Nation and Main Events all have problems with Haymon and they contain a long list of top fighters in the game.

HBO is a promotional company?

I just thought they were a network but iguess not

[bigdunny1]

SchoolTheseCats you know and I know Haymon and Jay-Z got beef that stretches beyond boxing. And to prove they got beef when Jay-Z was ready to give a haymon fighter a career payday more money then he even got a year later in his PBC debut and made him vacate his belt just because Haymon refuses to work with Roc Nation. Further more no Roc Nation fighter has fought or even been rumored to fight any of the long list of fighter Haymon has. This is not a accident and you don't force your fighter to give up his belt and turn down that kind of money for no reason. Cotto and Ward in theory have tons of options for fights with haymon fighters yet none are realistic options or are being floated around for one reason only...Haymon. Roc Nation clearly had no problems trying to make a fight with Haymon fighters which is why they overbid for the purse. I gave you many examples why they have problems you keep saying Haymon has no problem with Roc Nation but haven't provided any evidence that they don't. I'll wait please tell us

[bigdunny1]

HBO is a promotional company?

I just thought they were a network but iguess not

HBO is not a promotional company but they have exclusive contracts with many fighters and since Haymon doesn't get along with HBO none of those fighters will face PBC fighters. So when you make a list saying only these promoters got problems with Haymon you can't leave HBO and their fighters off the list. HBO has no problem working with any other promoter except Haymon. I wonder why? lol

[SchoolTheseCats]

SchoolTheseCats you know and I know Haymon and Jay-Z got beef that stretches beyond boxing. And to prove they got beef when Jay-Z was ready to give a haymon fighter a career payday more money then he even got a year later in his PBC debut and made him vacate his belt just because Haymon refuses to work with Roc Nation. Further more no Roc Nation fighter has fought or even been rumored to fight any of the long list of fighter Haymon has. This is not a accident and you don't force your fighter to give up his belt and turn down that kind of money for no reason. Cotto and Ward in theory have tons of options for fights with haymon fighters yet none are realistic options or are being floated around for one reason only...Haymon. Roc Nation clearly had no problems trying to make a fight with Haymon fighters which is why they overbid for the purse. I gave you many examples why they have problems you keep saying Haymon has no problem with Roc Nation but haven't provided any evidence that they don't. I'll wait please tell us

Quillin said he pulled out fight for birth of child which his wife had and uncle who was dying from cancer which he did can't discuss any potential fights for ward when he don't know yet if he going make move back down to 168 or go full 175 those are not haymon issues I'm not saying it's not bad blood because it could be but you also gotta take in the accounts of what Quillin said for his reasons to pull out fight other then that ions instance they paths haven't crossed eachother to say they won't work together in boxing game

[SchoolTheseCats]

HBO is not a promotional company but they have exclusive contracts with many fighters and since Haymon doesn't get along with HBO none of those fighters will face PBC fighters. So when you make a list saying only these promoters got problems with Haymon you can't leave HBO and their fighters off the list. HBO has no problem working with any other promoter except Haymon. I wonder why? lol

so HBO banning haymon managed fighters from network is going start hurting they product that's why they have no fights after krusher schedule until maybe October with Crawford coming back 24th they damn near slashed they boxing budget in half so main events can't stage more cards without that budget from HBO all they egos are hurting fans more so then they pockets we get cheated out of fights we want to see because politics

[Kilrain]

Has Ambrose Mendy been ****canned?

[snoopymiller]

PBC only needs to sign 5-6 guys and the game is over.

Canelo, GGG, Crawford, Kovalev, & Bradley.

Give it 18-22 months and they will all sign.

[ea22]

Quillin said he pulled out fight for birth of child which his wife had and uncle who was dying from cancer which he did can't discuss any potential fights for ward when he don't know yet if he going make move back down to 168 or go full 175 those are not haymon issues I'm not saying it's not bad blood because it could be but you also gotta take in the accounts of what Quillin said for his reasons to pull out fight other then that ions instance they paths haven't crossed eachother to say they won't work together in boxing game

What Quillin said is bull****, if any of that was true why was he bribed to pull out of the fight? When Golovkin pulled out of the Lee fight because of personal reasons he wasn't given any money, nor is any other boxer when that is the case.

[bigdunny1]

Come on you know what quillen said is bs and just him trying to save face to his fan base trying to explain why he turned down the fight and vacated the belt. These guys do what haymon tell them too and just playing dumb and blaming everyone but the one we all know is pulling the strings

[Barcham]

How are they not a major player when they have Cotto who is about to sign a monster deal to fight Canelo later this year and had one of the best viewer-ships of the year in his fight on HBO a few months ago? And Ward is on everyone's top 3 P4P lists? When you have 2 fighters who are more accomplished then anyone who has fought on PBC so far. Roc Nation might only have 2 name fighters but both names are a bigger deal then anybody on PBC right now. How is HBO hurting? They are having their best year in like damn near a decade. Did you see the numbers Canelo just did? Canelo vs Cotto is going to do monster PPV numbers. And here is the key HBO fights make money. Something not a single PBC fight has done. All have lost millions. PBC has hurt Showtime. But PBC hasn't done a thing to hurt HBO, their ratings are all up from last year when PBC didn't exist.

Fact is saying besides Golden Boy and Top Rank Haymon has no problems with anyone is a lie. Top Rank, Golden Boy, Roc Nation, HBO, Main Events that's a long list and a huge percentage of the star fighters in boxing right now. Haymon has a lot of fighters but other then Mayweather not any stars compared to the big named fighters from that list.

I pretty much agree with your post other than the part about Ward. Ward is not on anyone's P4P list at any position much less top 3. That alone damages a well presented post.