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Who's the better defensive fighter Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Pernell Whitaker?

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  • If anyone who voted 'don't know/equal' is reading this....

    Would you have picked one or the other if that option wasn't there or just not voted?

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    • Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
      That's actually not true and I will share my footage next month as I said before, and even if it was, that's still footage which you could probably find on youtube. Regardless, my point(s) still stand.
      I think you will find that is true.

      There is no known footage of Charley Burley other than highlights from the Oakland Billy Smith fight. Which is no where near enough to gauge how good his defense is and especially not to rank him amongst the greats in that catergory.

      So you're either lying or you have managed to get hold of something that doesn't exist.

      Where did you get this footage of Burley? And what fights are they?
      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 07-17-2015, 05:53 PM.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        I think you will find that is true.

        There is no known footage of Charley Burley other than highlights from the Oakland Billy Smith fight. Which is no where near enough to gauge how good his defense is and especially not to rank him amongst the greats in that catergory.

        So you're either lying or you have managed to get hold of something that doesn't exist.

        Where did you get this footage of Burley? And what fights are they?
        I like how they are conveniently not available straight away for whatever reason.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          I think you will find that is true.

          There is no known footage of Charley Burley other than highlights from the Oakland Billy Smith fight. Which is no where near enough to gauge how good his defense is and especially not to rank him amongst the greats in that catergory.

          So you're either lying or you have managed to get hold of something that doesn't exist.

          Where did you get this footage of Burley? And what fights are they?
          Didn't we debate on Burley before? You were saying he's greater than Oscar because Robinson ducked him or some shit like that. If I got the wrong person, my bad.

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          • Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
            Didn't we debate on Burley before? You were saying he's greater than Oscar because Robinson ducked him or some shit like that. If I got the wrong person, my bad.
            I don't remember but I do think Burley is greater than Oscar.

            Not because Robinson ducked him though obviously. Because he has a better resume, IMO.

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            • Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
              Put it this way. Sweat pea made defensive fighting entertaining. He would draw cheers from the crowd with his deference prowess. Fans would look forward to seeing how bad pernell would make his opponents miss and made fools out of them. He was able to use his defensive skills as his attraction.
              Stop trying to rewrite history. People criticized Whitaker's style in the same way they do with Mayweather. You're full of sh it.

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              • They are both two of the best in history. I have watched both in their primes and believe that Mayweather is slightly sharper defensively.

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                • Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
                  well it's obvious to me who's defense is better because one style lasts longer than the other. one might be more aesthetic to some people but that's not the question.
                  The problem is that people are using longevity as a reason to make Floyd the greatest ever, but then there is the elephant in the room that is Bernard Hopkins...

                  If longevity is one of your criteria, then we should be talking about Bernard Hopkins being the best defensive fighter of all time, not Floyd. His resume after 40 is better than Floyd's after 30.

                  Hopkins is also remarkably slick, and has a much larger bag of tricks than Floyd has.

                  Floyd is frustrating because he is always going to be a questionmark like Roy. His career is the product of careful matchmaking, and we never saw him face the best when they were the best.

                  Roy we saw it a few times, but the rest was garbage, but what we saw was incredible.

                  Hopkins on the otherhand has a long legacy of fighting the best at their best and spoiling thier party, and he has done it through his 30's and into his late 40's.

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                  • Floyd better...


                    How may times was pernell dropped... No way in hell floyd getting dropped by roger or hurtado

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                    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                      The problem is that people are using longevity as a reason to make Floyd the greatest ever, but then there is the elephant in the room that is Bernard Hopkins...

                      If longevity is one of your criteria, then we should be talking about Bernard Hopkins being the best defensive fighter of all time, not Floyd. His resume after 40 is better than Floyd's after 30.

                      Hopkins is also remarkably slick, and has a much larger bag of tricks than Floyd has.

                      Floyd is frustrating because he is always going to be a questionmark like Roy. His career is the product of careful matchmaking, and we never saw him face the best when they were the best.

                      Roy we saw it a few times, but the rest was garbage, but what we saw was incredible.

                      Hopkins on the otherhand has a long legacy of fighting the best at their best and spoiling thier party, and he has done it through his 30's and into his late 40's.

                      No it isn't. Not even close either.

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