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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by Deevel916
    From the pool of available fighters, I wouldnt mind seeing him go out fighting Khan or Brook. There's some intrigue with those matchups and one can see how Floyd can be challenged. Berto is pretty much a "gimme" fight to look good ending his career against.

    There's more excitement from a Floyd/Khan fight than Floyd/Berto. Berto will shut down mentally once he starts getting picked apart. Khan will at least go out on his shield swinging and can see how he can give Floyd fits.
    yes Berto is. you and others have consistently been harping on "excitement" as being what you want. You define "excitement" by fights ending in KO's. This likely will end that way.

    Now that there are strong rumors Floyd/berto will happen, it seems as if you are saying you want to see a competitive fight, something I and others have been harping on, over "excitement".

    So it looks like Floyd/CBS are trying to build interest for a 50th fight by using the same strategy you and others have applauded on HBO- giving their stars opponents designed to be "exciting" and lose to build interest in the next fight.

    What is the issue?

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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      yes Berto is. you and others have consistently been harping on "excitement" as being what you want. You define "excitement" by fights ending in KO's. This likely will end that way.

      Now that there are strong rumors Floyd/berto will happen, it seems as if you are saying you want to see a competitive fight, something I and others have been harping on, over "excitement".

      So it looks like Floyd/CBS are trying to build interest for a 50th fight by using the same strategy you and others have applauded on HBO- giving their stars opponents designed to be "exciting" and lose to build interest in the next fight.

      What is the issue?
      Khan/Floyd would be "exciting" and "competitive". He will take Floyd out of his comfort zone and force him to fight rather than just trying to nullify and tap his way to a decision win. Khan may not be the most highly skilled boxer but he does have a will to win and will go out on his shield.

      Berto/Floyd may be exciting or may not. I dont see this ending in a KO for Floyd whatsoever. What I see is Floyd finding his rhythm by round 3 or 4 and shutting Berto down.

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        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        yes Berto is. you and others have consistently been harping on "excitement" as being what you want. You define "excitement" by fights ending in KO's. This likely will end that way.

        Now that there are strong rumors Floyd/berto will happen, it seems as if you are saying you want to see a competitive fight, something I and others have been harping on, over "excitement".

        So it looks like Floyd/CBS are trying to build interest for a 50th fight by using the same strategy you and others have applauded on HBO- giving their stars opponents designed to be "exciting" and lose to build interest in the next fight.

        What is the issue?
        Exactly.

        I imagine Floyd will let his hands go in this fight and go for the KO.

        I can't see him playing safe with Berto.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          Khan/Floyd would be "exciting" and "competitive". He will take Floyd out of his comfort zone and force him to fight rather than just trying to nullify and tap his way to a decision win. Khan may not be the most highly skilled boxer but he does have a will to win and will go out on his shield.

          Berto/Floyd may be exciting or may not. I dont see this ending in a KO for Floyd whatsoever. What I see is Floyd finding his rhythm by round 3 or 4 and shutting Berto down.
          Ok, I think Khan does offer a different set of skills. I think Khan benefits more from getting the "didn't fight Floyd" bump rather than fighting him and losing.

          I would disagree about Floyd/Berto. If it happens there is an excellent chance for a KO/TKO.

          I will hold out hope it isn't Berto but I will watch it no matter what.

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            #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Exactly.

            I imagine Floyd will let his hands go in this fight and go for the KO.

            I can't see him playing safe with Berto.
            I can. Floyd is a safety first fighter and lets not forget, Berto can still crack despite his shortcomings.

            Unless the Haymon fix is in, Floyd will be Floyd and play it safe for 12 unless he really has Berto in trouble.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              I can. Floyd is a safety first fighter and lets not forget, Berto can still crack despite his shortcomings.

              Unless the Haymon fix is in, Floyd will be Floyd and play it safe for 12 unless he really has Berto in trouble.
              SO Floyd either wins by UD or its a fix win if he gets a KO/TKO. Geez dude, now I see where you are really coming from.

              If I or someone else said something like this about an HBO fight you'd have an absolute fit.

              You guys said he'd never fight Manny. he did. You said he'd never finish the contract, he did. Maybe its time to just accept he's better than you care to admit.

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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                SO Floyd either wins by UD or its a fix. Geez dude, now I see where you are really coming from.

                If I or someone else said something like this about an HBO fight you'd have an absolute fit.

                You guys said he'd never fight Manny. he did. You said he'd never finish the contract, he did. Maybe its time to just accept he's better than you care to admit.
                I never said Floyd wasnt a great talent. You'd have to be blind not to admit that. Recognizing his skillset and being a fan of his style are 2 different things though.

                What I'm saying is, I dont see Berto having anything in his arsenal that can trouble Floyd. Nothing whatsoever unless he happens to land a rogue lucky punch that stuns Floyd and he jumps on him.

                At the same time, I dont see how the powers that be would let Floyd bow out with a loss to Berto. Lets not act as if Haymon doesnt control and have influence over his fighters and the sport.

                The truth is, this is a very corrupt sport whether we want to admit it or not.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  I can. Floyd is a safety first fighter and lets not forget, Berto can still crack despite his shortcomings.

                  Unless the Haymon fix is in, Floyd will be Floyd and play it safe for 12 unless he really has Berto in trouble.
                  I agree. Berto is as much of a threat as anyone else if he is able to connect. Floyd's primary objective will still be to make sure that doesn't happen. I do think he'll be able to land at a ridiculous rate though. If he can swell up Berto, he might even go for it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    I never said Floyd wasnt a great talent. You'd have to be blind not to admit that. Recognizing his skillset and being a fan of his style are 2 different things though.

                    What I'm saying is, I dont see Berto having anything in his arsenal that can trouble Floyd. Nothing whatsoever unless he happens to land a rogue lucky punch that stuns Floyd and he jumps on him.

                    At the same time, I dont see how the powers that be would let Floyd bow out with a loss to Berto. Lets not act as if Haymon doesnt control and have influence over his fighters and the sport.

                    The truth is, this is a very corrupt sport whether we want to admit it or not.
                    I agree with you on Berto. If he gets the fight, its solely to set up a 50th fight by having Floyd look "exciting". I understand the conspiracy theory point about not having Floyd lose and there is corruption in boxing.

                    I have just never seen you bring these things up like this in other fights that appear on paper to be set up for the same reason as a Floyd/berto fight would be.

                    So either everyone has to fight a competitive fight every time in the ring, or we just enjoy the expected "excitement" like we do when GGG fights or when Kov/Caparello or Manny/Algieiri happens.

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                      #50
                      Berto, he a big, strong Haitian doe

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